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I Feel There is Some Emptiness (Mentor System + Forum Quests) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17229.msg219419#msg219419
« on: December 08, 2010, 10:58:51 am »
Okay everyone after I was done completing my lesson, taught by 927, I felt like I was stuck at split in the road. One way I could take was to consistently post things on the forums and get my rank up. The other idea is to go astray and only use the chat or just playing elements itself. I think there should be some system of guidance in the forums to help the newer people feel a sense of accomplishment. Let's say, Forum Quests. i know this may not be what anyone would want to do now, but if given the opportunity, i would devise a quest system on the forums where a newbie feels like he's done something to help out himself and the elements community. For example: Quest 1: Go out and post 10 times on the forums and gain positive feedback (i.e what if there was a thumbs up and a thumbs down button?). Everyone knows there are trophy whore out there who want to do 100% of their quests. Why not indulge them with newfound possibilities? These quests could intertwine with the mentor system too. While being mentored, the mentor himself could check off on their apprentices profile the "quests" the apprentice has done. I'm not denying that the mentor system is great right now, but I do believe we could enhance some of its main features. Getting Newbies that much more involved in elements may give hope to a new generation of players.
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Re: I Feel There is Some Emptiness (Mentor System + Forum Quests) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17229.msg219432#msg219432
« Reply #1 on: December 08, 2010, 11:24:22 am »
Possible Quests (Post mentor system completion):
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These obviously may seem corny and/or stupid, but I am trying to give a sense of what the quests may look like.
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Re: I Feel There is Some Emptiness (Mentor System + Forum Quests) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17229.msg219478#msg219478
« Reply #2 on: December 08, 2010, 01:59:18 pm »
It's interesting to see what the first Graduate of the program has to say after having finished the program. I would however wait a bit to see how others are feeling.

While I do respect your feelings and desires, I think it would be a good idea to see how the group of Graduates feel before making such a drastic jump into Forum Quests.
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Re: I Feel There is Some Emptiness (Mentor System + Forum Quests) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17229.msg219676#msg219676
« Reply #3 on: December 08, 2010, 08:19:31 pm »
That's fair, I was just giving my insight of course :D
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Re: I Feel There is Some Emptiness (Mentor System + Forum Quests) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17229.msg219767#msg219767
« Reply #4 on: December 08, 2010, 10:45:35 pm »
Nice idea. Would certainly make more regulars out of newbies, since gamers are famous for addictive personalities. Unfortunately, awards are handed out manually on this forum, so an icon for it is out of the question.

One problem is that it's difficult to get acknowledged on this forum since it's for a knowledge-based game. It's hard to get noticed solely for posting, as a lot has been done already. This puts newbies off getting involved with the community. Making and discussing card ideas as well as participating and discussing tournaments are the best ways for starters, and joining the chat helps a metric ton. As such, that should definitely be on the quest list, along with stuff like World of Elements and the wiki.
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Re: I Feel There is Some Emptiness (Mentor System + Forum Quests) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17229.msg219768#msg219768
« Reply #5 on: December 08, 2010, 10:48:59 pm »
like your idea, but for the Thumbs up/down idea, we already have karma, and that is pretty hard to get (at least for me because i almost never give out positive feedback) anyways.
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Re: I Feel There is Some Emptiness (Mentor System + Forum Quests) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17229.msg219770#msg219770
« Reply #6 on: December 08, 2010, 10:50:37 pm »
Nice idea. Would certainly make more regulars out of newbies, since gamers are famous for addictive personalities. Unfortunately, awards are handed out manually on this forum, so an icon for it is out of the question.

One problem is that it's difficult to get acknowledged on this forum since it's for a knowledge-based game. It's hard to get noticed solely for posting, as a lot has been done already. This puts newbies off getting involved with the community. Making and discussing card ideas as well as participating and discussing tournaments are the best ways for starters, and joining the chat helps a metric ton. As such, that should definitely be on the quest list, along with stuff like World of Elements and the wiki.
Yea those quests were just some "ideas". Of course others are always welcome into the mix
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Re: I Feel There is Some Emptiness (Mentor System + Forum Quests) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17229.msg219775#msg219775
« Reply #7 on: December 08, 2010, 10:54:39 pm »
well i feel obligated to post. i kinda like this idea. i dont have any suggestions ATM, but i like the idea
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Re: I Feel There is Some Emptiness (Mentor System + Forum Quests) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17229.msg220046#msg220046
« Reply #8 on: December 09, 2010, 05:10:51 am »
well i feel obligated to post. i kinda like this idea. i dont have any suggestions ATM, but i like the idea
the only real problem I have with this is finding a way of displaying this so people can see it, but so that it's not too flashy like an icon.
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Re: I Feel There is Some Emptiness (Mentor System + Forum Quests) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17229.msg220068#msg220068
« Reply #9 on: December 09, 2010, 06:06:51 am »
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Currently getting ability for avatars at higher post counts already incites enough spamming, we don't need more of that.
Inciting people to take the mentor program might also not be a good idea, you only want motivated people for that, and some people (like me) usually learn better on their own than with the help of someone completely random.

Idea number 5 is also prone to destructive criticism (honest feedback, but the deck probably kind of ****s :'( ).

Yay for pessimism, but I felt the need to say this :P

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Re: I Feel There is Some Emptiness (Mentor System + Forum Quests) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17229.msg220113#msg220113
« Reply #10 on: December 09, 2010, 10:15:36 am »
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Currently getting ability for avatars at higher post counts already incites enough spamming, we don't need more of that.
Inciting people to take the mentor program might also not be a good idea, you only want motivated people for that, and some people (like me) usually learn better on their own than with the help of someone completely random.

Idea number 5 is also prone to destructive criticism (honest feedback, but the deck probably kind of ****s :'( ).

Yay for pessimism, but I felt the need to say this :P
I think you may be a little confused. Those weren't actually real quests people would do. They were examples of possible ways to go about doing this Forum Quest thing. I see the simplicity in most of the quests... I wrote them in five min or less. As I say earlier in this thread, There is always an open door for new quest ideas, but thanks for the feedback anyways torb
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Re: I Feel There is Some Emptiness (Mentor System + Forum Quests) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17229.msg220219#msg220219
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Currently getting ability for avatars at higher post counts already incites enough spamming, we don't need more of that.
Inciting people to take the mentor program might also not be a good idea, you only want motivated people for that, and some people (like me) usually learn better on their own than with the help of someone completely random.

Idea number 5 is also prone to destructive criticism (honest feedback, but the deck probably kind of ****s :'( ).

Yay for pessimism, but I felt the need to say this :P
I think you may be a little confused. Those weren't actually real quests people would do. They were examples of possible ways to go about doing this Forum Quest thing. I see the simplicity in most of the quests... I wrote them in five min or less. As I say earlier in this thread, There is always an open door for new quest ideas, but thanks for the feedback anyways torb
Hmm, I understood it as done quest => reward, if the reward is significant enough people will do the quest for the sole purpose of the reward, even though they think the quest itself is kind of meh (the mentor system).

That was one of the things I was trying to say. Which is easily fixed by not having any reward though.

 

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