@Yellow Waiting 1 year seems pretty patient to me. ITs not like plastique waited 3 months like the normal cycle and then just immediately made a topic asking why there havent been new elections.
Our term began approximately 11 months ago. Our term should have ended a number of months after that (I believe SG extended it to 6?). Either way, no one's been waiting a year for anything. I'd prefer that this exaggeration didn't become misinterpreted into fact. I'd also prefer that this discussion continue to be about what to look for when electing Council 5 rather than giving examples of every little piece of personal resentment that people have held onto about the Council since the beginning of time; I won't offer any input of my own if that happens because I'm not interested in fueling a hate thread.
Even giving the leeway of 6 months after the move for council to get on its track, he gave until twice the normal council cycle before making a topic. Saying that he or anyone has been impatient when the current council has been here for a long time and has had (once again, giving 6 month leeway due to the move) half a year to decide what to do with the new council is not just unfair, but completly wrong. This is probably one of the reasons why plastique thinks the new council shouldnt have any of the old members on it, because this has been so unorganized.
The forum move occurred 5 months before the issue of electing a new Council was raised by anyone on the forums (to my knowledge). Before this time I never even considered raising the issue of electing a new Council to the Council itself. Why? Because 1) it never appeared to be a priority before then and 2) it has always been the responsibility of the Admin* to decide what to expect from Council, not us ourselves.
*I have no idea what type of discussion has taken place between any of our Admins about what they want the Council to do from this point forward.I ask for patience not because I don't believe we've overstayed our welcome for more time than we should have, but because this problem will not go away until it has been properly discussed and dealt with. Because like I said before, the system previously in place was destroyed when SG disappeared without a trace and will not be solved by simply bringing a new Council into power. You'd get some amount of initial productivity at the beginning of the term, but things would eventually degrade back into our current position, I promise you. You could expect to have this exact same discussion reemerge nearly every single time a term ended, which I don't think most of the community would want to happen, so why don't we work towards fixing it once and for all?
So while it seems reasonable to say we've had 6 months to fix this problem, the reality is that we (and by we I mean the Council) haven't been aware that this problem was so pressing until approximately 1 month ago; community feedback remains the greatest way of reflecting on what needs to be evaluated and fixed, after all. This isn't another case of someone voicing their opinion and having it seemingly be ignored, us posting and discussing the problem alone is enough to show that we're looking to resolve it. I know that I personally take this entire discussion very seriously now that it's been brought to my attention, but I alone can't take a direct course of action that would solve the problem.
Note that this is just my take on this as someone inside of Council. The last side of this issue that remains to be expressed is from the point of view of one of our Administrators.
