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Unoffical contest: The quest for the fastest T50 farmer https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=8036.msg90226#msg90226
« on: June 13, 2010, 12:19:54 pm »
In this thread, people will post their T50 farmers which they believe win matches the fastest and most efficiently.  To enter the contest, you MUST give stats!  Here is how you give stats...

Do 100 t50 games, and track the average number of your turns it takes to win.  Also track the number of losses.  We will then average out which deck kills in the least amount of turns, on average. 

Losses will be incorporated into that average by being given a value of likely 10-20 turns, a penalty for the time wasted, in addition to the lost rating and money.  It's not set in stone yet, but it will be quite detrimental to your average, that's for sure. So, here's an example calculation:

Match 1: 4 turn win
Match 2: 6 turn win
Match 3: 5 turn win
Match 4: 5 turn win
Match 5:  Loss (15 turn penalty)

35/5 = 7 turn average.


Feel free to post your deck before you finish your testing, either for feedback, or for other people to test it.  But to enter into the contest officially you must do 100 matches and track the losses and number of turns to win.

Good Luck!


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Re: Unoffical contest: The quest for the fastest T50 farmer https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=8036.msg90230#msg90230
« Reply #1 on: June 13, 2010, 12:22:04 pm »
We already have a thread very similar to this one (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,1875.0.html) but hopefully this one will attract more people.

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Re: Unoffical contest: The quest for the fastest T50 farmer https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=8036.msg90233#msg90233
« Reply #2 on: June 13, 2010, 12:27:03 pm »
Ah, I missed that thread... I wonder which algorithm would be preferable, a calculation based on turns taken may be less influenced by luck than an electrum-based calculation.

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Re: Unoffical contest: The quest for the fastest T50 farmer https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=8036.msg93334#msg93334
« Reply #3 on: June 16, 2010, 03:52:00 pm »
Ah, I missed that thread... I wonder which algorithm would be preferable, a calculation based on turns taken may be less influenced by luck than an electrum-based calculation.
I don't see why there can't be both.  If you're grinding for money/score obviously you want a better electrum based calculation.  But if you're grinding for cards, the turns calculation would be better.  But either way the score is going to be skewed by the number of rare farms out at the time.  Maybe keep track of the number of non-biting farms you run into as well?

EDIT: HA! I should have been keeping track... I just had a 3 turn win... :P

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Re: Unoffical contest: The quest for the fastest T50 farmer https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=8036.msg93356#msg93356
« Reply #4 on: June 16, 2010, 04:16:15 pm »
Ill take part, 100 games may take me a few days though

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Re: Unoffical contest: The quest for the fastest T50 farmer https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=8036.msg93404#msg93404
« Reply #5 on: June 16, 2010, 05:24:26 pm »
Ive created a excel/open office calc spreadsheet to automatically calculate your averages among other things. I recommend filling this out as you go. It can also give you hits as to wh
at decks you are weak against etc if you fill it out in full.

Link: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=Z0GPLK7C


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Re: Unoffical contest: The quest for the fastest T50 farmer https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=8036.msg94487#msg94487
« Reply #6 on: June 17, 2010, 08:24:34 pm »
Due to lack of interest I have decided not to post the deck. but here are my stats:

Main stats:
Win rate 84%
Farm rate 24%
Win rate (non farms) 60%
game time 1.58 minutes
turns per game 9.29
turns per game 9.93 (adjusted for losses at 15 turns per loss)
most wins in 7-8 turns
fastest win 5 turns

electrum stats
33.13 electrum per game
1258.1 electrum per hour

card stats:
46% of games gave cards
68.51 electrum per game after selling cards
2601.46 electrum per hour after selling cards

Spin 1 average value 7.43
spin 2 average value 11.88
spin 3 average value 15.23

cards won:

SoG x 4

flying weapon x 3
lobotomiser x 3
Titan x 3
Trident x 3

eternity x 2
Hourglass x 2
Shrieker x 2
SoR x 2

Arsnic x 1
bonewall x 1
druid x 1
Fire Shield x 1
graboid x 1
Heal x 1
lightning x 1
Maxwell x 1
Nova x 1
Pharoah x 1
photon x 1
Quantum Pillar x 1
Rain of fire x 1
shockwave x 1
squid x 1
sundial x 1
vamp stiletto x 1

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Re: Unoffical contest: The quest for the fastest T50 farmer https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=8036.msg95444#msg95444
« Reply #7 on: June 18, 2010, 11:38:46 pm »
I say we exclude farms from the calculations? y/n?

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Re: Unoffical contest: The quest for the fastest T50 farmer https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=8036.msg95501#msg95501
« Reply #8 on: June 19, 2010, 12:42:53 am »
T50 efficiency can't be measured very well. One could, for example, play on Sunday with a deck and win a lot, but on Friday, the same person's deck could not work, because of the better players in T50. There's also the rare farms variable, which can change the results a lot.
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Re: Unoffical contest: The quest for the fastest T50 farmer https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=8036.msg95528#msg95528
« Reply #9 on: June 19, 2010, 01:11:58 am »
yeah xdude you made a point, and it's true,
the enviroment in t50 is so mush susceptible to many variables, making any kind of statistics almost useles,
whataver i'll do it just for fun ;)

i am posting my first quarter of test, i'll finish next week and i'll post my deck too:

right now i have a ~8 turn average (fast rainbow)


 

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