Why the Top 50 isn't fun

[JotS3]

I think rare card farms are a great way for new players to get access to better cards... really, I do...

But where is the fun in playing a top 50 game where the opponent does nothing but play off color lands?

How do new players get better at the game and see better decks if the top 50 decks are not a true representative of how the players got to be top 50 calibre?

I'm not suggesting that the top 50 should be each players best deck or highest winning percentage deck, but I do think it would be far more fun for people grinding the top 50 to actually have to grind out a win. For crying out loud, at least play the proper colors for the cards in the deck.  Have a deck which could at least, in theory, beat a really bad player.

Maybe I am the only one who sees a problem here... but it is boring playing top 50 when you only rarely get a real game.

[proman1355]

Rarely get a  real fight? Maybe im just unlucky/lucky (Depending on what side of the arguement i'm on..Im pretty neutral about this.), but i get a real fight about 3/4ths of the time! I think you might be exaggerating a little, but i see your point, and by the way you're not the only one who thinks this, Trust me

[BloodlinE]

i think he's right..there's no fun killing a player with no deck...im suggesting the t50 players construct a deck with the rare cards..

[Mntoothpick]

In my experience, more decks were competitive than not.  I only found 14 decks which were "farm" grade.  A lot of decks were very hard to beat and some were more balanced. 

The interesting thing seems to be the rotation.  Out of the 50 decks, I only was able to play 48 of them after extensive efforts.  Some decks seemed to come up in the rotation more than others.  Not sure why that is...

I really think an adjustment to the cost of upgrading land would be a great way to take some of the pressure off players for grinding.  At 1500 electrum per land, it takes forever just to upgrade the quantum. 

[DrunkDestroyer]

I actually don't encounter that many farms (Apart from at the time of posting this of course, I have just encountered a biting and non biting farm in the two matches prior to seeing this) but all the others were non farms.

The problem is of the non farms they end up all being ROL Hope, Speed Entbow or 60-42 card Time Rainbow.

[MrBlonde]

I actually don't encounter that many farms (Apart from at the time of posting this of course, I have just encountered a biting and non biting farm in the two matches prior to seeing this) but all the others were non farms.

The problem is of the non farms they end up all being ROL Hope, Speed Entbow or 60-42 card Time Rainbow.

Actually there are a few other decks out there like AntiLord's EE/Sky Dragon/Fog shield deck. JDMT and Clathius's Lava Golem/Phoenix deck, there is a flying arsenic deck out there,  and a couple mono lifes (i think Essence and someone else). Yeah not a whole lot of variety but it's not ALL the same decks.

I also think Pervepic puts up biting decks and there is a charger deck and mono-aether deck with phase dragons/immortals/phase shields. And oh yeah Clp's miracle/stone skin stall deck.

[stinky472]

Should T50 be so fun though? I think the real fun is in pvp, not against a dumb AI that will pulverize an hourglass when you have a pulverizer out. What challenge is it to play against an AI that dumb? I think the real fun is in pvp, and sometimes to get the most out of it you have to farm a bit and get some rare cards of money to upgrade. I think it's very fortunate that there are nice farms in t50 otherwise this process of finding rare cards you can use for pvp would take a lot longer.

[TheoCT]

http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,7413.0.html

Take a look at that thread I made essentially saying the same thing.

[Svenn]

My issue with top 50 is when it's not a farm deck, most of the time it's a rainbow deck, each one dishing out the same pattern, it gets annoying/dull fighting the same deck time and time again, not to mention because they are rainbow, you have less of a chance winning a card from them.