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Re: The Top50 Farming Challenge https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=1875.msg49365#msg49365
« Reply #12 on: April 06, 2010, 09:23:38 pm »
I think there's too much variance in the T50 for this challenge.  There'll be decks you face multiple times and decks that you don't face at all.  The number of farms at the time you do the challenge also greatly skews your results (sometimes there's 10+, other times there's not even 5). 

Edit: see post below for stats.

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Re: The Top50 Farming Challenge https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=1875.msg50169#msg50169
« Reply #13 on: April 08, 2010, 09:51:26 am »
My Devourer/Quicksand quantum denial has been fragging some top50 the past few days. I might post some stats later.

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Re: The Top50 Farming Challenge https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=1875.msg50205#msg50205
« Reply #14 on: April 08, 2010, 12:51:42 pm »


After an hour of playing (so these results should increase by about 50% later)

Start:

Score: 15827
Won: 1154
Lost: 292
Electrum: 597

End:

Score: 16374
Won: 1180
Lost: 306
Electrum: 1344

Net:

+547 Score
26 won, 18 lost 59% win rate
+747 Electrum

Cards won:

shrieker x2
bone wall
oty x2
hope
Emp. bond
frog
earthquake
miracle
lobotomizer
photon

Notes:

Too many fractal decks >_< The only shot I have at defeating a hope/RoL combo is by stealing the Lobo early on. Raindbow decks depend on their draw alone. If they get an early oty or firestorm I'm a goner. Shrieker rush decks are the easier. AI messes up and burrows them, giving me just enough time for a kill. Barely any farms active as well, I got only 3 or so.

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Re: The Top50 Farming Challenge https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=1875.msg53159#msg53159
« Reply #15 on: April 14, 2010, 02:46:00 pm »
omgarm, I love your deck.  Couple things tho: It seems to have a bit too much acceleration and not enough sinks for it.  I know your trying to go with a "Off color stuff is free!" sub-theme for the Lightning/Arsenic, but I think those slots would be better served by cards that enhance your Immolation super-theme.  My choices currently are 1 Phoenix and 1 Minor Phoenix (which can be cast off two Nova if you have no Photons for Immolation; or can act as a sink for the remainder of your 7 red on the first turn).

In fact, you have so much redundant acceleration, I think one Nova can be dropped.  Brimstone Eater would be another guy, notably one that can be cast off one Nova and then Immolated, or he can hang around attacking for two and making future Lava Golems possible.

Lastly, and this is minor, I suspect either Forest Spirit or Giant Frog (or any of the aforementioned red creatures for that matter) are better than Forest Specter, as either of them are much more likely to hit first turn.  I can suffer the 3cc for Improved Steal (stealing a Hourglass is amazing, and stealing a shield for the win is great too), and the Graboid (since it's in your mark), but a 2/3 grower is unlikely to be worth the reduction in consistency, and his average 1-turn delay from his casting cost tends to counteract the benefit his stats would otherwise give him versus Otyugh and Rain of Fire.  It's "fun" to have a sink for that blue mana, but fun doesn't win games like consistency and power does.

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Re: The Top50 Farming Challenge https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=1875.msg55161#msg55161
« Reply #16 on: April 18, 2010, 12:51:02 pm »
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This is the deck. Played for 90 minutes. Dunno why, I always do less games than other players in these challenges, so maybe someone could try the deck.

Oh, and I paid for the upgraded arsenic, the others are just some upgraded cards I won from the FG. I think this deck can work much better when some more cards are upgraded. Then with 1 cremation + 1 Nova paying for 2 Lava Destroyer, I will possibly remove the Gravitons.

Results:

Victories: 37
Losses: 14
Electrum coins: 1183

Cards:
Fire Shield
Adrenaline
Golden Hourglass
Relic
Immolation
3x Sundial
2x Shard of Gratitude
Nova
2x Graboid
Anubis

From 7 fights against farms (included in the 37 victories), I got:
Eternity
Arctic Squid
Trident
Pulverizer

In fact, I got very bad luck usually at first draw. Things like 1 Graviton + 3 Immolation + 3 Nova; or 4 Photon, 1 Nova, 2 Lava Golem. I usually dont get that bad luck this much with this deck, this time I was just unlucky. This have caused several losses. The most irritating, however, was the one the rainbow deck got 3 darkness quanta from putting the quanta towers into play, and stole my Arsenic in his first turn. Even poisoned, I would have won if I had 1 more turn.

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Re: The Top50 Farming Challenge https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=1875.msg56396#msg56396
« Reply #17 on: April 20, 2010, 12:42:35 pm »
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This Deck is very very close to Vreelys Golem Rush Deck. Which is awesome, cudos! :-)


Results:
Wins: +53

Losses: +11

Score gained: +1594

Elektrum gained: +2090

Cards gained: 34

While it was a nice grind i lost to another fire rush 2times alone, a speed rainbow and a poison rush and some other. ;-)

Pitily i challenged 2x false gods during my work, out of habit i guess. ;-) I won against FireflyQueen btw... 8)
I clicked Level 3 2-4 times, too. I was farming while watching tv, so things happen.
Not the best statistics, but hey, it's one at last.

I hit many farms tbh, thus the good card and score and electrum values.

Justsoneguy

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Re: The Top50 Farming Challenge https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=1875.msg56740#msg56740
« Reply #18 on: April 20, 2010, 10:41:36 pm »
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OK so apparently there were a lot of farms so I decided to farm the T50 for an hour.

60 minutes*
+1509 score
47 wins
3 losses
+1804 coin

However, I was selective on my spins to save time. I skipped spins vs. rainbows and other non-rare decks.  I also should've kept track of how many farm decks I faced which I didn't.  There were a lot of farms though, I would say 15, maybe even 20 of those games were vs. farms.

I realized my first deck posted on this thread sucks (it's more of a PVP deck, and slow) and doesn't really help vs. rainbow/non-farms if you can win in 5-6 turns anyways with a rush deck.







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Re: The Top50 Farming Challenge https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=1875.msg57011#msg57011
« Reply #19 on: April 21, 2010, 12:45:19 pm »


When calculating the capital gains ... are you guys adding the won and sold cards too?

Or is this just reward-electrum?

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Re: The Top50 Farming Challenge https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=1875.msg57118#msg57118
« Reply #20 on: April 21, 2010, 05:31:47 pm »
When calculating the capital gains ... are you guys adding the won and sold cards too?

Or is this just reward-electrum?
Just reward-electrum. 

I did another 60 minutes last night:
+1884 score
52 wins (23 vs. farms)
2 losses
+2364 electrum (and another +3000 electrum from cards alone: 12 weapons, 5 pharaohs)

That is by far the best results I've had in 1 hour.  Of course I was probably lucky hitting 23/52 of the games vs. farms...or there's a disgusting number of farms out there.  The first session above I didn't get as lucky with the spins, I think I only won 10 rares and definitely 0 pharaohs.  But averaging both hours, that's +4300 electrum/hr (taking cards into consideration). 

Now that it seems like everyone's leaving farms up when they aren't playing, you probably might want to consider grinding T50 instead of FG when everyone's asleep.




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Oh and whoever I doubted in chat that you got over +3.3k electrum/hr off T50 in 10 hrs, I apologize.  Times have changed. 

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Re: The Top50 Farming Challenge https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=1875.msg57126#msg57126
« Reply #21 on: April 21, 2010, 05:56:03 pm »
thats ridiculous. you got 23 out 52 games as farms? i have trouble getting like 3 farms (and this one today too) out of like 100 games.

Justsoneguy

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Re: The Top50 Farming Challenge https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=1875.msg57134#msg57134
« Reply #22 on: April 21, 2010, 06:30:00 pm »
Farm the T50 off hours: when you should be sleeping, farm T50 instead :p

I've grinded T50 before when there were maybe only 5 farms on, I get about 1k score/hr average. 

Oh and I meant to say 23/54 (52 wins+2 losses) of the games were farms.  Still an absurd number maybe (definitely was when I started playing this game 1/2 yr ago).

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Re: The Top50 Farming Challenge https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=1875.msg57137#msg57137
« Reply #23 on: April 21, 2010, 06:35:31 pm »
Obviously, this is very farm-based. When I was playing, there were a couple of farms floating around; maybe 5-10 % of my games were against farms.

Which is why a T50 farming challenge can have widely deviating results. Regardless, I can say for certainty that either a golem-based deck like mine, a shrieker deck, or a life adrenaline deck are the best choices for it.

 

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