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Why is T50 supposedly better than AI5? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=15236.msg194407#msg194407
« on: November 05, 2010, 10:55:26 pm »
Based on posts I've seen around here, plus the massive post count of the T50 forum, it seems AI4 is more popular to farm among players than AI5.  I'm having trouble understanding exactly why this is.

Is it solely because of the potential for rare farms?  The only thing I've gotten out of T50 is a few shards so far.  But as far as money goes, half-bloods seem to be the way to go.  With my fractal minor vampire deck, I only really fear fire, and usually get Elemental Mastery.  Plus with the possibility for upgraded cards (of which I've won a few) I don't understand the big deal about T50.

My experience with T50 has been limited (I've only been playing for about 2 weeks) but I just can't figure out what the advantage is there.

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Re: Why is T50 supposedly better than AI5? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=15236.msg194672#msg194672
« Reply #1 on: November 06, 2010, 03:36:01 am »
t50s

Pros:
Chance to be a farm
100 hp

Cons:
Some t50s aren't farms
Cards are all upped (in most cases)

AI5s:

Pros:
chance to win an upped card

Cons:
200 hp
some cards are upped
Percentage of winning an upped card is low


Overall:
t50s:
Some t50s can be hard to beat since decks are good and upgraded.

AI5s:
Slow to beat compared to t50s and percentage to win an upped card is too low to make up for amount of t50 wins you can get.

Feel free to comment or add to my list.
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Re: Why is T50 supposedly better than AI5? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=15236.msg194691#msg194691
« Reply #2 on: November 06, 2010, 03:59:07 am »
There are a few disadvantages to AI5 that make it undesirable for most people, but basically:

Compared to t50:
  the base electrum reward is only slightly higher but games will probably take longer due to higher starting hp.
  The larger and generally more varied decks mean much lower chances of winning cards from AI5.
  The fact that some of AI5's cards are upgraded and some are not even further lowers the chance of winning them
  No rare farms
  Difficulty on both can vary significantly but at least with t50, you know which deck types are more popular at any given time so  it's somewhat more predictable.

Compared to FG's
  Only some cards are upped, not all - again meaning lower chance of winning them(and especially of winning the upped cards)
  Slightly lower base electrum reward
  Generally easier, but again, more varied opponents making it harder to design decks that can grind them effectively

So basically, if you're looking for rares, t50 is better.  If you're looking for upped cards/faster electrum gain, fg's are better as long as you have a deck which can handle them effectively(and it doesn't necessarily take a very high win % against them either for this since even winning one upped card will make up for quite a few losses).  Several decks have been designed which are very effective for grinding both t50 and fg's and a deck which can beat AI5 consistantly probably can beat at least some fg's as well or at most might need some minor adjustments to make it work(in fact fractal/pest/vampire was the first deck I used for fg's and was at least decently effective for it)

Combining all of these factors, many people will probably do AI5 once for the quest and then never look at it again aside from occasionally for a change of pace when they're bored.  That being said, if you do find you're making more money doing half-bloods than the other levels or just enjoy it more, keep doing so :)

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Re: Why is T50 supposedly better than AI5? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=15236.msg195027#msg195027
« Reply #3 on: November 06, 2010, 03:19:33 pm »
Thanks for the answers guys. :D

I guess I happened to find a decent deck that I enjoy playing against AI5, I think I'll keep at it (except to grab some shards!) until I can upgrade a few more cards and hit the FG's.

 

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