playing against top 50 to make the transtion to False Gods

[hermantheowl]

Are there any unupgraded decks to play against the top 50 with? IT loooks like upgrading by playing against level 3 would take MONTHS.

[Deedle]

You might run into a rare farm against top50, but in general the top50 decks are harder than lvl5s.  Grind on level 5s you can win some upgraded cards from them time to time.

[Silkenfist]

Have you tried the Anti-Rainbow approach? Most Top50 players have some kind of Rainbow and can be easily defeated by a good Dark Matter-based denial deck.

That said, ask yourself what exactly you are trying to farm:
- For rare cards. Top50 is the better place
- For gold, the AI5 are way better. They occassionally drop you upgraded cards (read: 1160 electrum) and they are quite easy to beat once you get a decent deck together.

[Rahlious]

Here is the unupped deck I used to farm T50. It is a direct damage, Fire Bolt and Unstable Gas deck.  I experimented with different combinations using weapons and other ideas, but this simple idea worked the best.

Fire Mark
10 Burning Pillar
6 Fire Bolt
8 Wind Pillar
6 Unstable Gas


Here is a quick table that shows how much wind and fire quanta will be needed relative to how many Unstable Gas and Fire Bolts cards are in the hand. 

UG = Number of Unstable Gas in hand.
WQ = Amount of Air quants needed to deploy the all the Unstable Gas in hand.
FBD = Amount of Fire Bolt that damage that needs to be done.
FB = Number of Fire Bolts in hand.
FQ = Nmount of Fire Quanta needed to do the required damage and activate the Unstable Gas.

UG(AQ): FBD FB(FQ),FB(FQ),FB(FQ),FB(FQ),FB(FQ),FB(FQ)
4(30) : 020  6(**), 5(20), 4(18), 3(20), 2(30), 1(60)
3(24) : 040  6(25), 5(29), 4(33), 3(43), 2(63), 1(130)
2(18) : 060  6(35), 5(40), 4(50), 3(65), 2(93), 1(190)
1(12) : 080  6(46), 5(53), 4(66), 3(89), 2(133)
0(06) : 100  6(59), 5(69), 4(83), 3(110), 2(163)

This table assumes the opponent has 100HP.  If the opponent has more than 100 HP, then adjust accordingly.
If for example the opponent has 120 HP, then either wait for an extra unstable gas or fire quanta to do 20 more damage. If the opponent has permenant destroying capabilities and there is a likely hood that an unstable gas will be destroyed or stolen, then either wait for an extra unstable gas or extra fire quanta to do the extra damage.

Here is an example on how to use the table.  If you have 3 Unstable Gas cards in hand, then use the 2nd row that starts with a 3. The (24) after the number is 4 is the amount of Air quants needed to deploy the 4 Unstable Gas cards in hand. Next is the amount of damage Fire Bolt damaged needed or 040 in this case. The next set of numbers represent the number of Fire Bolts in had and the amount of Fire quants needed to do 40 damage and activate the 3 Unstable Gas cards. If you have 6 Fire Bolt cards in hand, then you will need 25 Fire quanta 6(25). If you have 5 Fire Bolt cards in hand, then you will need 29 Fire quanta, If you have 4 Fire Bolt cards in hand, then you will need 33 Fire quanta 4(33)... and so on.

[Deedle]

Wouldn't a reflective shield ruin that completely 

[pikachufan2164]

You generally don't see Reflective Shield in top 50, though. The standard Rainbows have better shields to use (i.e. Phase Shield, Bone Wall, Permafrost Shield).

[Rahlious]

I have yet to see a reflective shield playing against the T50.  Most of the time it is a bone wall.  The Unstable Gas/Fire Bolt deck works best against the standard FG killing rainbows which are slow and very defensive.   Does not work well against fast hitting decks. 

[Essence]

Rahlious, why so many Wind Pillars?  You'd think you'd be better off with 12 Burning/6 Air, yes?

[Rahlious]

Rahlious, why so many Wind Pillars?  You'd think you'd be better off with 12 Burning/6 Air, yes?

I tried going heavier on the Burning Pillars like that, but ended up with too many draws where I didn't get a Wind Pillar for several turns.  It is possible that might work better and I just had some bad luck.  If you play around with it, let me know how it goes.

[dimondghost]

This is what I used with great success

very simple, just a tad modified

Fire Mark
10 Burning Pillar
6 Fire Bolt
6 Wind Pillar
6 Unstable Gas
2 Fahrenheit

10:7 so far... so good

[icybraker]

Interesting deck. Looks pretty sound, if a bit weak against permanent control decks.

Use a Shrieker Spam, a Mono- , or a Speed Poison against T50 for the fastest, funnest results.

[dimondghost]

Interesting deck. Looks pretty sound, if a bit weak against permanent control decks.

Use a Shrieker Spam, a Mono- , or a Speed Poison against T50 for the fastest, funnest results.

can you give sample mono or a speed poison that is unupped? I would like to try one