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Re: Other t50 Players - Suggestion about making your farms https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=7413.msg87480#msg87480
« Reply #24 on: June 10, 2010, 10:59:54 am »
Nymphs and marks are really the only 'rare' cards.  The 'rare' cards that can be won in the slots are more like uncommon cards.  Also, a biting rare farm is still a rare farm.  Any decent rush deck will still beat a biting rare farm.  And most everyone farming T50 uses a decent rush deck. 

Bottom line is that farm decks exist and most all of us (if not all of us) have benefited from them.  If you want to make a biting farm deck, then make a biting farm deck.  If you want to make a free farm deck, then make a free farm deck.  If you are in the top 50, you've earned the right to post whatever deck you have the cards to make...

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Re: Other t50 Players - Suggestion about making your farms https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=7413.msg87485#msg87485
« Reply #25 on: June 10, 2010, 11:24:25 am »

Yea this "easy" score stuff needs to stop.

Thus, we also need Top50 players to cease playing rainbow decks.  There are just too many people playing black hole decks with the goal of easy EMs vs all those bloated rainbow decks that Top50 players use.

Also, while we are at it, we need all the Top50 players to log on early Sunday morning and uploaded your deck.   We can't let people farm Top50 on Sunday mornings in order to get easy score vs all those noob decks that get uploaded.
So you're trying to mock by doing suggestions that would make it even easier for everybody? You're not making any sense mate. I'm just saying that RARE cards should be RARE and the way that they're around this game everybody has a bunch of each and they're not rare.
Its alil bit to late for that Teo.. they should have thought of that before Shards became a priority in about 80% of all the T50 deck wich were from the start only attainable from donating cash to Elements.. and yes RARES should be rares wich they arent anymore..

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Re: Other t50 Players - Suggestion about making your farms https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=7413.msg87489#msg87489
« Reply #26 on: June 10, 2010, 11:34:53 am »
I have an intermediate solution: all farms should be bite farms except those providing noobs with the essential pulvy, eternity and green shards, which anybody who has farmed a decent length of time should have an excess of. How's that? Then again, what's so bad about giving them a free 60 points and electrum when some of us would actually donate a lot more of our own electrum to help them if there were a means of transferring stuff?
who decides which rares to give away? as a newer player when i didnt have a lot of rares i would've much rather received a vamp stiletto, 2 arsenics, 2 titans, and then 3 lobos...(in that order)...(btw i've never made a FG rainbow as i went the RoL/Hope route)

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Re: Other t50 Players - Suggestion about making your farms https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=7413.msg87731#msg87731
« Reply #27 on: June 10, 2010, 06:42:21 pm »
Personally I rather the non biting farms and here is why:

- it is only after i built a pretty good semi upgraded, well rounded deck that I started doing the T50 so in that sense it forced me to be a better player. And I was rewarded for this by encountering the occasional farm.

- it's not like EVERYONE uses the T50, I know a few people that specifically grind FG's for their main source of income. That is fine for them but what if I don't have the resources to build that FG deck I have been thinking of? Hello T50 farms!

- if you are going to argue that there should be no easy button you missed that train way back when SG and puppy posted those FG decks that everyone uses. I myself have never used those decks but everyone who has is pretty much swimming in electrum.

But in the end it's up to you guys. Do you reward people like me for making neat decks that can counter most of what the T50 has to offer by providing the occasional oasis? Or do you try to push the idea that are FG's the best way to make money and foster even more SG/Puppychow sheep?  :P

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Re: Other t50 Players - Suggestion about making your farms https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=7413.msg91058#msg91058
« Reply #28 on: June 14, 2010, 05:31:36 am »
Yay, I've won 8 flying weapons from these "farms" instead of actual rares. Not to mention how much less score and electrum I got because of not getting masterity.

Biting farms are stupid. Beginners might play top 50 for the rares, but after some time they'll have tons of them.
The real purpose of farms is an acceptable way of electrum (and to a lesser extent score) farming, other than the false gods.
Biting farms are unfit for that, while also reducing the chance of winning a rare a lot...

Besides, to farm to 50 you need a very strong deck, so it's not like you get the rares for free. You'd still need to be able to have a decent win rate against the remaining top 50 decks, if you don't want to lose lots of electrum and score.

I'll never, ever make a biting farm...if I want to give people a challenge, I'll load my strongest pvp deck, and if I want a farm I'll make one optimized for farming, and having only the cards least commonly seen in farms or having the highest electrum value. These biting ones are useless for both purposes, they don't provide a real challenge (except for a very few, they at annoying at most), but they are considerable worse for farming as well.

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Re: Other t50 Players - Suggestion about making your farms https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=7413.msg91148#msg91148
« Reply #29 on: June 14, 2010, 09:03:45 am »
Seravy you explained your point very well,
and your point is the reason why my farm doesn't "bite" and has 6+6 rares and the others are pillars.
i know that trowing in 6 animate weapon can make the deck "slightly" more challenging, but basically i am wasting my opponent's time because i am not offering an interesting game, nor the good chance of getting a rare!!!

so, +1 karma for you :)

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Re: Other t50 Players - Suggestion about making your farms https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=7413.msg91292#msg91292
« Reply #30 on: June 14, 2010, 03:34:53 pm »
I have always liked biting farms more, and the main reason for that is I like to play. Even if my opponent is not the the strongest one (like biting farm or something) I still prefer that he does at least something. Maybe it is just me but I never needed any weapon, rare or score so strongly that I got pissed because of winning only Animate Weapon. That's a good thing of course that there is a big disagreement here; so there will never be very similar decks in top 50.
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Re: Other t50 Players - Suggestion about making your farms https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=7413.msg91908#msg91908
« Reply #31 on: June 15, 2010, 12:51:09 am »
My position:

If one wants to give (read: allow people to get easily) rare cards then one should make it as easy as possible.
If one doesn't want people to get rare cards, or think they should stay 'rare' (whatever that means considering they aren't even rare), then one should just not make a farm.

I don't get this in between business of making biting farms.

Ultimately, people in Top 50 should have whatever decks they want and nobody should suggest otherwise.

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Re: Other t50 Players - Suggestion about making your farms https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=7413.msg92270#msg92270
« Reply #32 on: June 15, 2010, 09:17:15 am »
Giving people rares is just stupid really. I don't mind helping people out by giving them a better chance at getting a rare and if they beat me then they deserve to get what they win, otherwise it's just giving them away, ya know?

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Re: Other t50 Players - Suggestion about making your farms https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=7413.msg92284#msg92284
« Reply #33 on: June 15, 2010, 09:30:35 am »
so you're basically against "farms", I don't feel that way, but I understand your point! :)

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Re: Other t50 Players - Suggestion about making your farms https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=7413.msg92296#msg92296
« Reply #34 on: June 15, 2010, 10:08:15 am »
Personally I think
1. The game is much more fun if you have rare cards as they not only are powerful, but lots of them are also mechanically very interesting. Especially Shard of Gratitude just completely opens up the possibility to play a wide range of more defensive decks.
2. Winning 60 coins is awesome.
Therefore, and because I'm sort of a philanthropist, I try to post no-bite rare farms as often as possible.
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Re: Other t50 Players - Suggestion about making your farms https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=7413.msg92306#msg92306
« Reply #35 on: June 15, 2010, 10:29:02 am »
I would understand theoCT's point if the cards were actually rare.. but they're not.

 

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