KOTH (slowly finding the best T50 deck)

[guolin]

Heh, kartis [Napalm] once again proves that he is the master of Lava Destroyer decks. Kartis sent me his deck [the one that pwned shrieker rush's ass] when I asked for his T50 farmer - I was a little skeptical at first, though. I want to know: how much did the Fire Pendulums help you, Sick? Did you ever want a Fire Tower instead?

[jmdt]

Heh, kartis [Napalm] once again proves that she is the master of Lava Destroyer decks. Kartis sent me her  deck [the one that pwned shrieker rush's ass] when I asked for his T50 farmer - I was a little skeptical at first, though. I want to know: how much did the Fire Pendulums help you, Sick? Did you ever want a Fire Tower instead?

Edited just a bit for you, lol.

Yeah Kartis is essentially responsible for all current destroyer decks.  First person to use MP's as cremeation foddor to speed up the deck.

[guolin]

Heh, kartis [Napalm] once again proves that she is the master of Lava Destroyer decks. Kartis sent me her  deck [the one that pwned shrieker rush's ass] when I asked for his T50 farmer - I was a little skeptical at first, though. I want to know: how much did the Fire Pendulums help you, Sick? Did you ever want a Fire Tower instead?

Edited just a bit for you, lol.

Yeah Kartis is essentially responsible for all current destroyer decks.  First person to use MP's as cremeation foddor to speed up the deck.

Gender sucks over the internetz. xD

Btw, what do you think, Jmdt? Is the Fire Pendulum useful? I'm thinking about upgrading one.

[SickPillow]

Heh, kartis [Napalm] once again proves that he is the master of Lava Destroyer decks. Kartis sent me his deck [the one that pwned shrieker rush's ass] when I asked for his T50 farmer - I was a little skeptical at first, though. I want to know: how much did the Fire Pendulums help you, Sick? Did you ever want a Fire Tower instead?

I think having the 1 pendulum actually worked well.  I definitely felt the effect in some games where i could buff all my lava destros, and not just 1 of them.
I don't think it slows you down much, since you still get 1 fire right away, and 1 more as you pass a turn... the 2 quanta lets you play your phoenix next turn for the cremation.
and most fire quanta you get from cremation.

[SickPillow]

Wow the shrieker rush lost straight up .

Napalms deck is very good.  Its a hybrid of V2 and a Vreelys picking up the best traits of both.  Actually V2 was based on Napalms 1st version and Napalm has since updated it for speed based on advances from V2.

edit for sickpillow:

here is the link for Napalm's deck (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,6960.0.html)

thx for the link.

[jmdt]

Heh, kartis [Napalm] once again proves that she is the master of Lava Destroyer decks. Kartis sent me her  deck [the one that pwned shrieker rush's ass] when I asked for his T50 farmer - I was a little skeptical at first, though. I want to know: how much did the Fire Pendulums help you, Sick? Did you ever want a Fire Tower instead?

Edited just a bit for you, lol.

Yeah Kartis is essentially responsible for all current destroyer decks.  First person to use MP's as cremeation foddor to speed up the deck.

Gender sucks over the internetz. xD

Btw, what do you think, Jmdt? Is the Fire Pendulum useful? I'm thinking about upgrading one.

Yeah, for AI3 the pendulum doesn't do much, but for T50 it really helps out since you face more stall type decks and more CC.

[guolin]

Heh, kartis [Napalm] once again proves that he is the master of Lava Destroyer decks. Kartis sent me his deck [the one that pwned shrieker rush's ass] when I asked for his T50 farmer - I was a little skeptical at first, though. I want to know: how much did the Fire Pendulums help you, Sick? Did you ever want a Fire Tower instead?

I think having the 1 pendulum actually worked well.  I definitely felt the effect in some games where i could buff all my lava destros, and not just 1 of them.
I don't think it slows you down much, since you still get 1 fire right away, and 1 more as you pass a turn... the 2 quanta lets you play your phoenix next turn for the cremation.
and most fire quanta you get from cremation.

Yeah, that's what I thought. It looks quite interesting, to say the least...

[TheOwner]

Why aren't you counting EM?  Life Rush, for example, is better for farming that Shrieker Rush (farming not wins).  I expected that to be way up there why is it not?  Electrum is what most people farm for, that's what should be counted.

[SickPillow]

Why aren't you counting EM?  Life Rush, for example, is better for farming that Shrieker Rush (farming not wins).  I expected that to be way up there why is it not?  Electrum is what most people farm for, that's what should be counted.

This has been debated a lot on this thread.

But the main point is this: 
Right now the point of the KOTH is to find the best speedgrinding deck, with the purpose of gaining the most Rares in the least amount of time.  The point is not to gain the most score or electrum directly from wins.
Therefore EM victories are only of secondary importance.
I made recent judging changes that make it so that Win% and TTW are the only stats that determine the winner.

Also, since rares are worth a lot of electrum, faster grinding may actually net more electrum overall than decks specializing in EM victories.  It is very hard to make an accurate comparison between the two.

Everything isn't set in stone.. but for now, this is how the winner is determined.

[SickPillow]

I've been watching this closely, and it's a very good study. An idea I had is might try reintroducing other decks you've used before in a couple months when the game environment changes, but it's only a suggestion

And OMG at shrieker rush losing

I have already thought about doing "rematches" for the decks that have done the best (those that are at the top of my "subjective listing")
For the rematches, i might play more games, and possibly use jmdt's software tool that lets you record the actual time used for each win.
I haven't been doing time-to-win studies because they are a bit more painful to execute. (ie i can't watch tv while playing  )

[~Napalm]

Wait, what? HA! I knew my deck had to be better than shrieker rushes... 

Thanks to Hrmmm for prompting me to make it such

PS. Are you waiting for a rematch or something? Isn't the King of the Hill deck usually ranked 1? 

EDIT: Forgot to mention this, +1 Karma to you sir. Thnx for Testing ^_^

[willng3]

Wait, what? HA! I knew my deck had to be better than shrieker rushes... 

Thanks to Hrmmm for prompting me to make it such

PS. Are you waiting for a rematch or something? Isn't the King of the Hill deck usually ranked 1? 

How modest .  But perhaps this is the reason yours is the only upped speed-grinding deck I own?