Just some statistics from T50 farming.

[Wisemage]

I felt the need to post this since i wracked up a cool 300 losses looking for rare farms (didnt really bother me, but ill tell you what did).

So asi i said, ive done 300 games against the top 50.  in those 300 games I got ewan roughly 50 times (hes rank 25-26). that doesnt seem right to me.  The 2 rare farms i was looking for came up 5 times total in all 300 games.  Once again, does not seem right.

I also got several over people a dozen times  and i didnt even see some of the Top 50.

Anyone else experience this?

[CB!]

As far as I know, the only way to get a different randomization seed is to clear your browser cache and relaunch elements.  But I know what you're talking about.  Sometimes the randomizer seems to 'stick'.  Highly annoying when you're farming false gods and get Divine Glory like 4 times in a row.

[Wu_Li_Mammoth]

I also get Ewan *all the time*, from two different computers.

Which sucks, because his deck is awesome 

It seems every time some one posts up a deck that is hard to beat, i face it more and more the longer its up. I'm starting to think the t50 slants the randomization based on win ratios.

[KittyPWNS]

This thread caught my attention! Yesterday i was determined to get a Pulvy for my deck.  I read the post about your Pulvy/Morning Glory farm you put up for the weekend and was single mindedly grinding to get the elusive Pulvy!

I didn't keep count...but suffice to say from 4pm- 6am fits in quite a few games. It got so conspicuously repetitive, i changed my own deck around to compensate.  That meant easy wins, but i wanted to find your farm damn it! 

Many thanks for putting it up. 12+ hours of monkey grinding and I got the card. If only i read this thread earlier!!! 

As far as I know, the only way to get a different randomization seed is to clear your browser cache and relaunch elements.  But I know what you're talking about.  Sometimes the randomizer seems to 'stick'.  Highly annoying when you're farming false gods and get Divine Glory like 4 times in a row.

[Smokefree]

i was trying to win some weapons/shard  this weekend and kept running into all those green decks repeatedly, i just started hitting the back button and not fighting them.  You lose 15 gold..... but gain all that time.  I dont have a very fast t50 deck.  so i didnt mind so much.  7-8 hours of play over this sat and sun  earned me , 8 pulvi, 3 discord, 3 Eternity,4 Titan, 5 SoG, 2 SoD, 3 Morning Star, 3 Owls Eye. 

[Jack D.]

i was trying to win some weapons/shard  this weekend and kept running into all those green decks repeatedly, i just started hitting the back button and not fighting them.  You lose 15 gold..... but gain all that time.  I dont have a very fast t50 deck.  so i didnt mind so much.  7-8 hours of play over this sat and sun  earned me , 8 pulvi, 3 discord, 3 Eternity,4 Titan, 5 SoG, 2 SoD, 3 Morning Star, 3 Owls Eye.

If only it was that easy.  What deck were you using by the way?

After over 30 hours of play, I have won 3 rares.  I have found rare-farming decks exactly 4 times total.

I have been keeping track of stats this evening.  In 8 hours of matches, I have come across only 17 of the top 50 decks. I have seen 0 rare farm decks.  I have seen one particular deck 23% of the time.

Either it's poor programming or it's rigged. 

[Smokefree]

Hey Jack,

I read somewhere about a mono eather deck for t50 so i tried it. I did change a couple cards around but I  won 3 outta 5 games. so i sold off some of my etrx rares from FG farming. and upgraded all my pillars.  Helped speed this deck up.  Which seems to be the key to T50,  from what i can tell.  This deck did impress me by its effectiveness for $$$.

13 pillars <-- upgraded all them to help speed up deck.
6 Immortals
4 Phase Dragons
6 Dimensional Shields
1 Lobo 

[Jack D.]

Hey Jack,

I read somewhere about a mono eather deck for t50 so i tried it. I did change a couple cards around but I  won 3 outta 5 games. so i sold off some of my etrx rares from FG farming. and upgraded all my pillars.  Helped speed this deck up.  Which seems to be the key to T50,  from what i can tell.  This deck did impress me by its effectiveness for $$$.

13 pillars <-- upgraded all them to help speed up deck.
6 Immortals
4 Phase Dragons
6 Dimensional Shields
1 Lobo

Yes, I guess you are right.  It's the towers that make it possible to grind t50.  Most of the decks have towers and if you don't, you are pretty much catching up the whole game.

I tried your deck unupgraded and the mono aether thing didn't work at all.  Upgraded pillars might make all the difference though.

Since I already had a few quantum towers, I have been trying a mostly unupgraded rainbow (based on Scaredgirls "instant win" deck in the rainbow section).  It is the first deck I have tried that I can say has a decent win percentage (over 50%).

[Evil Combat]

i got some statistics on T50
weeks ago i hit t50 to rare farmed 1000 times nearly 200 of them is the same player

[dustnapyle]

as i have seen farming top 50 is you will run into alot of the same deck, there are only 50 choices and all.  But if you want to run into more rare farms i would recommend getting on close to the reset. Every Sunday the top 50 is reset.  Maybe it is just me but i notice a lot more rare farms in the early hours after the reset and they slowly turn into rainbow/rush decks over the next few days.  Personally i would like to find something besides a lobo, pulv, and fahrenheit.

[Jinxso]

I started to farm last night T50 (first time ever for me) and noticed something similar.   The same 6-7 players I seemed to get over and over in the first 2 hours.    Unfortunately 3 of the decks would crush me with no hope of living.   2 others was a 50-50 depending on my draw.    Then I bumped into 2 farm decks, got a rare from 1 and 3 relics from another.

I then started to start matches, reset if they were not a rare farm or unique player.    5 hours later, I had bumped into 4 different farm decks.   Won 22 relics, 6 weapons various, 10 shards (I wonder if you can win the upgraded versions already, never seen it) and a couple other misc rares.   I would stop on new player names the odd time just to see what they were playing.   Other then that, just kept looking for those farms.    Was interesting to say the least.

The funny thing CB! had a farm deck up, but twice I lost to it due to a very bad draw on my start, his deck actually pumps out a fair bit of dmg if you don't have any defenses (mine doesn't lol), its a Lava Golem rush deck.

All in all, I lost a ton of money initially by recycling but came out 2.5k ahead due to finding the relic farm.    It only worked since I did happen to find a relic farm.    If not, I would have lost big time money.   

Well back to normal grinding for me, need the money now to upgrade my newly obtained shards!

[pepokish]

Dustnayple: This is true.  If you come into the chat on Sundays, usually you can put in a few requests for farms.  (:


As for the "rigged" odds, I'm pretty sure it's just the randomizing code doing its job.

If you roll a dice 1000 times, there is a chance that you will get the same number 200 different times.  There is also a chance that you will get the same number several times in a row.  I honestly think what you guys are experiencing is just bad luck.  Randomization does not specify that you will get each of the 50 opponents exactly once in 50 tries.  You will always have repeat opponents when randomization is in play, and you will never meet the perfect 1/50 odds.