FFQ FUUUUUU

[sSethia]

How does that solve the problem? I'm not annoyed with how hard the deck is to beat, I beat it often enough, it's with how often I see it.

How is a person like me or any other person not in T50 supposed to solve this problem? A lot of the people in T50 already put out rare farms. We should be grateful. 

[Purity_Riot]

Except that's the opposite of how I feel. People should be making their won decks, you'll never get better at deck building if they weren't using other peoples decks.

[jallenw]

There are lots of decks that can beat False Gods enough to be profitable.  (If you know how to play them.)

PuppyChow's Rainbow
Order In the Court
Scaredgirl's Rainbow (Upgraded and Non)
RoL/Hope
Yaladilae's Butterfly Angel (v1.21)
Poison Quartet
The Condor
The Essential Newbie FG Farmer
Anti-FG deck / Qohelet style
etc...

The top50 is full of standard queen/druid/oty decks because they very likely have been using that type of deck for a while and have gotten used to the playstyle.  That is because that build was one of the early decks developed to beat fgs after the sundial nerf.  The other decks, however, are newer and use the recently released cards, so have not gained popularity in the t50 right now.

With regards to your desire that people develop their own decks instead of using other people's ideas, I will say that the best decks will always be a product of the ideas of more than one player.  Players first come up with a deck concept, but other can always find ways of improving them, so that the finished deck is the result of the combined efforts of all those involved in experimenting with the deck build. 

It is unlikely that all the oty/ffq/druid decks are the same.  It is just unfortunate that those cards are currently very powerful when used correctly, while many other cards have limited utility.  I, too, grew tired of the standard rainbow build, and developed my own fg killer that does not use the queen or the druid, so I can understand your frustration.

I am sure that time will solve this problem, as cards are introduced and newfound combos change the game dynamic.

Jallen

[Jangoo]

Beyond all the discussion I can still fully understand the sentiment behind this thread:

FFQ, FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU!!!!

I don't care if people in the T50 cannot see the wide variety of FG-decks and stubbornly stick to that rainbow-build. I do care when I catch myself sighing out loud because for the fifth time in a row, that darn FFQ is fielded: FUUUUUUUUUUUUU!

 

[Purity_Riot]

THANK YOU!

[xdude]

There are lots of decks that can beat False Gods enough to be profitable.  (If you know how to play them.)

PuppyChow's Rainbow
Order In the Court
Scaredgirl's Rainbow (Upgraded and Non)
RoL/Hope
Yaladilae's Butterfly Angel (v1.21)
Poison Quartet
The Condor
The Essential Newbie FG Farmer
Anti-FG deck / Qohelet style
etc...

The top50 is full of standard queen/druid/oty decks because they very likely have been using that type of deck for a while and have gotten used to the playstyle.  That is because that build was one of the early decks developed to beat fgs after the sundial nerf.  The other decks, however, are newer and use the recently released cards, so have not gained popularity in the t50 right now.

With regards to your desire that people develop their own decks instead of using other people's ideas, I will say that the best decks will always be a product of the ideas of more than one player.  Players first come up with a deck concept, but other can always find ways of improving them, so that the finished deck is the result of the combined efforts of all those involved in experimenting with the deck build. 

It is unlikely that all the oty/ffq/druid decks are the same.  It is just unfortunate that those cards are currently very powerful when used correctly, while many other cards have limited utility.  I, too, grew tired of the standard rainbow build, and developed my own fg killer that does not use the queen or the druid, so I can understand your frustration.

I am sure that time will solve this problem, as cards are introduced and newfound combos change the game dynamic.

Jallen

Order in the court?                                 
                               
                         
                     
               
           
     
 

[jallenw]

I wondered if anyone would notice that.

OitC is not really an anti-fg deck, but I still love it.

[Wardead]

There are lots of decks that can beat False Gods enough to be profitable.  (If you know how to play them.)

PuppyChow's Rainbow
Order In the Court
Scaredgirl's Rainbow (Upgraded and Non)
RoL/Hope
Yaladilae's Butterfly Angel (v1.21)
Poison Quartet
The Condor
The Essential Newbie FG Farmer
Anti-FG deck / Qohelet style
etc...

The top50 is full of standard queen/druid/oty decks because they very likely have been using that type of deck for a while and have gotten used to the playstyle.  That is because that build was one of the early decks developed to beat fgs after the sundial nerf.  The other decks, however, are newer and use the recently released cards, so have not gained popularity in the t50 right now.

With regards to your desire that people develop their own decks instead of using other people's ideas, I will say that the best decks will always be a product of the ideas of more than one player.  Players first come up with a deck concept, but other can always find ways of improving them, so that the finished deck is the result of the combined efforts of all those involved in experimenting with the deck build. 

It is unlikely that all the oty/ffq/druid decks are the same.  It is just unfortunate that those cards are currently very powerful when used correctly, while many other cards have limited utility.  I, too, grew tired of the standard rainbow build, and developed my own fg killer that does not use the queen or the druid, so I can understand your frustration.

I am sure that time will solve this problem, as cards are introduced and newfound combos change the game dynamic.

Jallen

Order in the court?                                 
                               
                         
                     
               
           
     
 


I lawl'd

[tk13]

I also don't like going against those standard anti-FG rainbow decks in T50 because the rewards are usually crappy.

[Elasseyra]

make the End game PvE (the hardest it gets for now) easier. right that is definitely smart.

You definitely played too much WoW. There's no such thing as 'end game' in Elements. You're also one of the elitist sort that care more about how much they are presumably better than others, than they care about balance.

The FGs in their current state ARE overpowered - Oh, well, they are not exactly, since the AI is so retarded that you can exploit it if you know what to do, and, of course, have the hand to do it - which requires you to play Rainbow if you want to have a chance at every god. Where we are at the start again, that there's absolutely no balance for anything but rainbow.

So, what was your point again?

[Elasseyra]

There are lots of decks that can beat False Gods enough to be profitable.  (If you know how to play them.)

PuppyChow's Rainbow
Order In the Court
Scaredgirl's Rainbow (Upgraded and Non)
RoL/Hope
Yaladilae's Butterfly Angel (v1.21)
Poison Quartet
The Condor
The Essential Newbie FG Farmer
Anti-FG deck / Qohelet style
etc...

All of which are Rainbow, except for one. So what was your point again? There's no such thing as diversity in FG killing. If you want a chance at every god there's no way around Rainbow.

[jallenw]

There are only 14 or so different cards for each element, making mono decks unviable for the most part.  My expectation is that rainbow will take a back seat to mono/duo decks as the card pool grows.  You can't expect to have equitable performance with a deck that has 15 options for cards versus a deck that has 200+ options for cards, but you can have equitable performance when there are 50 or more cards for each element.  Elements is young, and in it's youth, rainbow rules.  We have to live with that for now.