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Purity_Riot

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Re: FFQ FUUUUUU https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=5615.msg57420#msg57420
« Reply #12 on: April 22, 2010, 05:40:07 am »
I'm using my own deck, aether-death, fractal, ball of lightnings, bone walls, vultures and phase shield.

And if the false gods were easy, people wouldn't be using a standardized deck to farm them.

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Re: FFQ FUUUUUU https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=5615.msg57432#msg57432
« Reply #13 on: April 22, 2010, 06:24:37 am »
there are alot of decks that can rush or nullify the rainbowdecks mostly played on t50.
also, there are several types of rainbows the players are using.

maybe, your deck just dont fit to farm t50.
get more speed, punch or perm-control in your deck and you will win more often.

please dont blame the mountain, cause you cant climb on it.

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Re: FFQ FUUUUUU https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=5615.msg57438#msg57438
« Reply #14 on: April 22, 2010, 06:43:46 am »
T50 IS easy.

An unupped deck can win like 75-80% against them.
again ... this deck (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,5618.0.html) had a stable 90% win-rate upped when I last tested it.
Even the unupped version is currently at 90%. This will probably not stand since the sample size is still too small to be conclusive.

I'm using my own deck, aether-death, fractal, ball of lightnings, bone walls, vultures and phase shield.

And if the false gods were easy, people wouldn't be using a standardized deck to farm them.
Personally, I dont really get why people stick to the rainbow-build so stubbornly.
I haven't played a rainbow in ages and had a lot of (very profitable) fun with other decks.
I can tell you though: If the AI gets it right, facing a Hope-deck in the T50 can be a very frustrating experience, compared to which the standard rainbow-stall pales.

As for your deck:
Have you fiddled with adding Plagues, Aflatoxin to it yet? If FFQ bothers you, then why not react to that fly-spam accordingly?
In T50, you are in the unique position to more or less know the opponents deck. Tweaking a T50 deck to exploit the expected rainbow is thus the most promising strategy.
(compare the abovementioned deck which "in your face"-heals via blackhole)


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Re: FFQ FUUUUUU https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=5615.msg57523#msg57523
« Reply #15 on: April 22, 2010, 01:05:10 pm »
there are alot of decks that can rush or nullify the rainbowdecks mostly played on t50.
also, there are several types of rainbows the players are using.

maybe, your deck just dont fit to farm t50.
get more speed, punch or perm-control in your deck and you will win more often.

please dont blame the mountain, cause you cant climb on it.
I'm not blaming the mountain. As I said, I can beat the t50's no problem. I said the FGs were too hard if people need a standardized deck to beat them. It's not that I can't beat the t50, or even the FGs, it's that I'm getting annoyed with seeing 40 people all playing the same deck.

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Re: FFQ FUUUUUU https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=5615.msg57547#msg57547
« Reply #16 on: April 22, 2010, 02:55:47 pm »
It is not that the FGs are too hard, they are fine.  it is the fact you cannot pick your FG, so you need a deck that can handle every situation in the game, and right now that is only a rainbow deck.

Purity_Riot

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Re: FFQ FUUUUUU https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=5615.msg57689#msg57689
« Reply #17 on: April 22, 2010, 07:38:06 pm »
I love how people keep agreeing with half of what I'm saying.

I know that's the problem, but making the FGs easier is quicker than making more cards.

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Re: FFQ FUUUUUU https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=5615.msg57693#msg57693
« Reply #18 on: April 22, 2010, 07:44:35 pm »
Yea that makes sense.

make the End game PvE (the hardest it gets for now) easier. right that is definitely smart.

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Re: FFQ FUUUUUU https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=5615.msg57696#msg57696
« Reply #19 on: April 22, 2010, 07:52:15 pm »
First of all, no need for the condescending attitude, my complaint is about seeing the same deck over and over again. I could care less about the FGs and their difficulty, I don't like seeing the same deck over and over again, and if the only way to beat it is by using a standardized deck, then there's a problem.

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Re: FFQ FUUUUUU https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=5615.msg58390#msg58390
« Reply #20 on: April 24, 2010, 08:31:08 am »
First of all, no need for the condescending attitude, my complaint is about seeing the same deck over and over again. I could care less about the FGs and their difficulty, I don't like seeing the same deck over and over again, and if the only way to beat it is by using a standardized deck, then there's a problem.
Ok, so are we still on the topic of t50 or did we move to FG killing?

Anyways, my feeling is that sometimes you need to conform to a standard deck in order to eventually get to the better part of elements, which would be upgraded pvp (once you have enough electrum to build said deck).  I would consider the Champion's League and weekly tournaments far and away the most challenging part of this game, and going against humans is always more fun than your standard AI (whether it be t50 or FG).  I understand your frustration with how difficult false gods can be, but if you have money to spend, you can just skip your 'impossible' match ups with false gods your non standard deck can compete against (if you don't want to conform).

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Re: FFQ FUUUUUU https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=5615.msg58565#msg58565
« Reply #21 on: April 24, 2010, 05:55:03 pm »
My frustration isn't with how hard they are, it's with how often I see that damned deck

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Re: FFQ FUUUUUU https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=5615.msg59440#msg59440
« Reply #22 on: April 26, 2010, 03:16:53 pm »
Just build an anti-rainbow deck.  Problem solved.

Purity_Riot

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Re: FFQ FUUUUUU https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=5615.msg59481#msg59481
« Reply #23 on: April 26, 2010, 05:19:02 pm »
How does that solve the problem? I'm not annoyed with how hard the deck is to beat, I beat it often enough, it's with how often I see it.

 

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