Best deck for grinding t50?

[balance776]

well, I created the Poison deck unupgraded and its working pretty well against T50.


By balance776 (http://profile.imageshack.us/user/balance776)

Upgrading the Poisons and Chrysaora's would certainly help it, but even without the upgrades I win about 50% of the time.

not too bad!
thanks for deck idea guys!

[Evil Hamster]

And don't forget to upgrade your pillars also.

[mbn]

Quick and pratical and simple to use.
Just get quanta, use farenheight to smooth, sundials to save time and bombard with fire lance.
Destroy enemy weapons and feral bond.

playing about with this in trainer...

absolutely love it.

its so simple!

[Scaredgirl]

The poison one looks pretty sweet actually (going to make it when I have the time)

Everyone is stealing my deck...

YOUR deck?

I say MY deck because it is the deck I use most. >.>

Yeah and you did help perfect it by removing those 2 Bone Walls. While it made this deck more vulnerable to attacks, it also made it faster which in the end proved to be a better choice.

I would say this poison deck is a team effort.

[Site Administrator]

Upgrading the Poisons and Chrysaora's would certainly help it, but even without the upgrades I win about 50% of the time.

Poisons I'm not too sure about, but the Chrysaoras aren't the best thing to upgrade really. It only adds 2 damage per card, and the AI will see it a a bigger threat than the unupped ones.

Personally, I like Pufferfish myself (upped Toadfish). Take out some bone pillars, add some sapphire pillars. Change your mark to death, and add Puffers. They poison every time they hit, and don't need a constant supply of death quanta to function. Obviously, Pillars should be upgraded to towers as soon as possible.

[Uncle Jellyfish]

The poison one looks pretty sweet actually (going to make it when I have the time)

Everyone is stealing my deck...

YOUR deck?

I say MY deck because it is the deck I use most. >.>

Yeah and you did help perfect it by removing those 2 Bone Walls. While it made this deck more vulnerable to attacks, it also made it faster which in the end proved to be a better choice.

I would say this poison deck is a team effort.

Agreed!

Upgrading the Poisons and Chrysaora's would certainly help it, but even without the upgrades I win about 50% of the time.

Poisons I'm not too sure about, but the Chrysaoras aren't the best thing to upgrade really. It only adds 2 damage per card, and the AI will see it a a bigger threat than the unupped ones.

Personally, I like Pufferfish myself (upped Toadfish). Take out some bone pillars, add some sapphire pillars. Change your mark to death, and add Puffers. They poison every time they hit, and don't need a constant supply of death quanta to function. Obviously, Pillars should be upgraded to towers as soon as possible.

The problem with Pufferfish is that they can be stopped by walls and Sundials.

The advantage to upgrading Chrysaoras to Physalia is that they deal an extra two damage, each, per turn, and since they are the only creatures in the deck, they will be a target, whether upgraded or not. That extra two damage does add up, too, and it helps take down Bone Walls so that Arsenic can hit the player.

[Evil Hamster]

Actually the Chrysoras are ignored by the AI druids. It has mutated my phylasia in the past- but not every game. Also- if the AI has any red quantum at all putting out a 3rd one is just asking for a firestorm 

[Dragoon]

I faced that poison deck for the first time against tttt (from t50).  I've been curious to see if my earth/time deck was fast enough to kill him before the poison got to me.  He won 2 out of 3.  I will say though that he had a fully upped deck and I only have 9 cards upped in my deck.

[Evil Hamster]

I faced that poison deck for the first time against tttt (from t50).  I've been curious to see if my earth/time deck was fast enough to kill him before the poison got to me.  He won 2 out of 3.  I will say though that he had a fully upped deck and I only have 9 cards upped in my deck.

Actually a single devourer will pretty much shut the poison deck down completely. 80% of the time it will "eat" the water quantum, and can't get enough poison damage out to kill the opponent before dying.

[Uncle Jellyfish]

I faced that poison deck for the first time against tttt (from t50).  I've been curious to see if my earth/time deck was fast enough to kill him before the poison got to me.  He won 2 out of 3.  I will say though that he had a fully upped deck and I only have 9 cards upped in my deck.

Actually a single devourer will pretty much shut the poison deck down completely. 80% of the time it will "eat" the water quantum, and can't get enough poison damage out to kill the opponent before dying.

Noooo! Don't give away my weakness! You truly are evil...

Actually the Chrysoras are ignored by the AI druids. It has mutated my phylasia in the past- but not every game. Also- if the AI has any red quantum at all putting out a 3rd one is just asking for a firestorm 

They Firestorm me whether I use Chrysaoras or Physalia, but I've never had an AI use a Druid to mutate my upgraded jellies, which is why I never Congeal them. I save Congeals for Otyughs, Mind Flayers, and Anubis...or Dragon spam... >.<"

[foyle]

Quick and pratical and simple to use.
Just get quanta, use farenheight to smooth, sundials to save time and bombard with fire lance.
Destroy enemy weapons and feral bond.

playing about with this in trainer...

absolutely love it.

its so simple!

I can't see the picture currently (not a problem with the picture, just firewall settings where I am), but this sounds like the same or similar to the deck I use in top50.  It is: 16x Burning Tower, 6x Fire Bolt, 5x Sundial, 2x Fahrenheit, 1x Explosion.  Mark is Light.
I played with this for awhile and it seemed to 'almost always win' in top50.  One day I decided to record 100 matches just to have something more statistical.  In those 100 matches, I only lost twice.  Sometimes you have to be moderately-intelligent about your use of the sundials, but other than that there isn't much to it.  All my cards are upgraded, but you could run it with everything un-upgraded except Sundials, which must be upgraded.  Your winning percent certainly wouldn't be quite as high then but I don't suspect it would change too drastically.  The Fahrenheits are also not necessary, basically it just helps your chances of winning really fast ( 5-7 turns), but if the game goes beyond that usually it is not a factor, and it does get stolen often.  I think it is better with them than without, but you could still run the deck without a weapon.

I haven't tried the poison deck, but I imagine it (poison) is probably a bit faster than this (fireball).  This fire deck CAN win in 5 turns, however it is extremely rare (so rare that I don't think I've ever had it happen, I have won in 6 though).  I would guess most often that wins come around turns 9-11 (by this point, even if your Fahrenheit has done no dmg, you should have some combination of the 4 bolts + 81 quanta, or 5 bolts + 63 quanta that you need to win).  The fire may have a higher winning percent than the poison, but may also take a bit longer.  Overall I am sure the poison is a "better" deck, since this fireball deck is wholly dependent on the fact that a) no Top50 decks have reflector shields and b) the AI never destroys upgraded sundials. 

[Uncle Jellyfish]

I haven't tried the poison deck, but I imagine it (poison) is probably a bit faster than this (fireball).  This fire deck CAN win in 5 turns, however it is extremely rare (so rare that I don't think I've ever had it happen, I have won in 6 though).  I would guess most often that wins come around turns 9-11 (by this point, even if your Fahrenheit has done no dmg, you should have some combination of the 4 bolts + 81 quanta, or 5 bolts + 63 quanta that you need to win).  The fire may have a higher winning percent than the poison, but may also take a bit longer.  Overall I am sure the poison is a "better" deck, since this fireball deck is wholly dependent on the fact that a) no Top50 decks have reflector shields and b) the AI never destroys upgraded sundials. 

The Poison deck wins, on average, in 6-8 turns, 9-11 turns on very rare occasions, and I've won in 5 turns twice. It IS faster on most occasions, but the deck that I've seen uzra play, which is very similar to this one, did manage to beat me by one turn because I kept drawing congeals (he had 20+ poison counters, and was at lower than 15 HP, I believe). Overall, both decks are very good at what they do, but likewise, they both have weaknesses. Poison is taken out by a single early game Devourer/Pest, and the Fire Lance deck is easily taken out by any type of reflecting shield.