Best deck for grinding t50?

[Mrd3ath]

You know what?  I tried fighting every one again (save a few I know are really annoying), and I think you're right.  Victories ARE usually fast enough unless I get a bad draw and the AI gets a good one, and the extra electrum from those victories really adds up.  Add in the fact that this is pretty fun and decent farming with lots of rares, and I might just retire AI5 farming forever.  Just now won two shards in one fight - decked out chaoz, I think he had 30 cards all along and I just added bonewall to combat that arsenic I saw yesterday.  Nice to finally be on my way to my very own shard of gratitude!

EDIT: not three battles later I won another green shard, from a timebow!

with which deck?

[johannhowitzer]

10 Bone Pillar
6 Chrysaora
6 Poison
2 Plague
6 Freeze
1 Bone Wall

The Bone Wall was a reaction to having issues winning Arsenic from a farming deck that had death quanta.

[johannhowitzer]

Still making money, but I'm getting REALLY tired of fighting rainbow after rainbow.  Especially when they keep throwing out SoG and quint elite oty.

[Elasseyra]

Especially when they keep throwing out SoG and quint elite oty.

Well, as I mentioned, drop your Freeze for more damage. I don't know if you have those Arsenics and Animate Weapons, but I guess not, else you would have one Arsenic in there at least... you could try Spiders or Mummies.

I used Plagues before - while they were not that useful and they are quite expensive unupgraded they are still more useful than Freeze imho, since the AI plays stuff out and quints later, where it's useless when the creature is already poisoned. Plus, it destroys RoL/Hope decks that seem to become quite common these days.

All unupgraded you will have a hard time for sure. If you really have no Electrum to upgrade anything you might get better results using a Life deck for now or farming AI3.

[Elasseyra]

Not saying this is any better but maybe you would like to try this deck out? You have most of the cards already, works fairly well and you don't have to really worry about creature control or bonewalls. I found that with a regular speed poison deck with physalia's, oty's and RoF's really ruined my day.
http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,5961.msg67844.html#new

Mmh, can't say that I struggle that much with Otys and RoFs. When I face a rainbow I watch their Fire and Gravity quanta and play only 2 Physalia if they have lots. Otys can't eat my Flying Arsenics then with 7 HP and the AI won't use RoF on 2 creatures. If I play Animated Arsenic in the former case it doesn't really matter if I might lose the Physalias.

On your deck idea:
While I like the idea of Adrenalined Arsenics, I can't seem to find it working out better, since you need 4 turns to play an Epinephrine (considering the first turn, where you don't get quanta for your mark) and it depends so much on getting Animates and Arsenics in equal order. I often find myself having either lots of Arsenics but no Animate or the other way round, which would destroy this deck. Plus, I'm also quite often having problems getting enough towers to play all stuff with 10 towers while you only have 8.
Unfortunately I don't have any of these Life cards upgraded, else I would try it out. But I really can't see it working. Having two or three Life cards in the starting hand seems like an auto-loss to me. How is this really working out for you? I don't have exact stats on my current deck (where I replaced one Physalia for another Bone Wall with good results), but it feels like an 80-90% win ratio.

My personal favorite T50 farmer though is Jangoo's speed rainbow deck.

Do you have a code or link to another thread for this? I guess it's the Entropy one with lots of different kinds of small creatures, but having a template that works might be useful

Majority of my losses are due to the prevalent RoL/Hope deck. I really hate that matchup.

Yeah, I hate those too - Depends on how early they get hope - either they have no chance or completely destroy me

Thanks for your Lobos btw, had only one for a loooong time. Now I on;y need two more and two Tridents to have 6 of any rare - care to put up a Lobo/Trident farm?

[Elasseyra]

(where I replaced one Physalia for another Bone Wall with good results)

I wanted to elaborate more on this: AI prioritizes Bone Wall higher than Arsenic for dispels for some odd incomprehensible reason, which makes Bone Walls so much more useful than one might think.

[johannhowitzer]

Not to mention Bone Wall has saved my tail many, many times, and turned a loss into a win by blocking some high-attack creature.

[dragonhuman]

if we're talking about good top50 grind decks i think the pillarless rush is good starting place for those with a few upgraded cards


this is how I run it

6x photons
6x novas
5x immolations (upgraded to cremation asap)
5x lava golems
2x lycans
2x forest spirit
2x momentum
1x arsenic (just because I have it)

I get a good ratio using this deck and its also fast, provided you don't get a bad draw

[MrBlonde]

On your deck idea:
While I like the idea of Adrenalined Arsenics, I can't seem to find it working out better, since you need 4 turns to play an Epinephrine (considering the first turn, where you don't get quanta for your mark) and it depends so much on getting Animates and Arsenics in equal order. I often find myself having either lots of Arsenics but no Animate or the other way round, which would destroy this deck. Plus, I'm also quite often having problems getting enough towers to play all stuff with 10 towers while you only have 8.
Unfortunately I don't have any of these Life cards upgraded, else I would try it out. But I really can't see it working. Having two or three Life cards in the starting hand seems like an auto-loss to me. How is this really working out for you? I don't have exact stats on my current deck (where I replaced one Physalia for another Bone Wall with good results), but it feels like an 80-90% win ratio.

8 towers is fine with this setup (it's actually more then enough) because you only need 24 total death quanta to play your whole deck. Honestly 7 towers would be enough it's just that there really are no other cards i would like to add.  2-3 life cards in your start also is no big deal. Admittedly though i don't have extensive stats on this deck but in the 30 games i have played i like it better then my speed poison. Here are my stats anyhow. Honestly in the long run these decks probably will run at a similar rate but this deck will EM much more since speed poison literally never EM's.

Speed Poison
132-32 (80.49%)
EM-17(12.88%) Probably all farms

Adrenalined Arsenics
25-5 (83.33%)
EM-14 (56%)

Do you have a code or link to another thread for this? I guess it's the Entropy one with lots of different kinds of small creatures, but having a template that works might be useful

Here it is although i changed out one of the cards for a flesh spider, can't remember which.

4vm 6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6u3 6u3 6u3 6u3 6u3 6u3 713 74f 74f 74f 77f 77f 77g 7ah 7dq 7gv 7ju 7n3 7q7 7t9 7t9 7t9 80b

Thanks for your Lobos btw, had only one for a loooong time. Now I on;y need two more and two Tridents to have 6 of any rare - care to put up a Lobo/Trident farm?

No problem i'll put up the farm later on Monday probably.

[Mrd3ath]

if we're talking about good top50 grind decks i think the pillarless rush is good starting place for those with a few upgraded cards


this is how I run it

6x photons
6x novas
5x immolations (upgraded to cremation asap)
5x lava golems
2x lycans
2x forest spirit
2x momentum
1x arsenic (just because I have it)

I get a good ratio using this deck and its also fast, provided you don't get a bad draw

6+6+5+5+2+2+2+1= 29 cards!

[icybraker]

Add an Immolation and a Golem and take out a Nova.

[Mrd3ath]

if we're talking about good top50 grind decks i think the pillarless rush is good starting place for those with a few upgraded cards


this is how I run it

6x photons
6x novas
5x immolations (upgraded to cremation asap)
5x lava golems
2x lycans
2x forest spirit
2x momentum
1x arsenic (just because I have it)

I get a good ratio using this deck and its also fast, provided you don't get a bad draw

What mark is it?