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xunling

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AI issue in top 50 decks. https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=1166.msg295#msg295
« on: December 15, 2009, 04:10:27 pm »

As you are all probably aware there are quite a few rainbow style decks in the top 50. A fair few of them are packed with (mainly upgraded) sundials and golden hourglasses. The issue arrises that the AI that palys these decks tends to draw cards from the abilities on the 2 cards as fast as possible leading to (assuming your deck has some form of shields or healing) an easy card out win. 

What I find unfortunate is that in the hands of a player these decks would be very hard to beat (hence them being in the top 50 I guess) but in the hands of the AI they are sadly rubish. Are there rainbow decks in the top 50 that contain sundials and hourglasses that people have come across that don't have this issue? because at the moment I am skipping numerous games.

Edit: I havea list of the decks that show this behavior at home. I'll post it up when I get there :)

Daxx

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AI issue in top 50 decks. https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=1166.msg296#msg296
« Reply #1 on: December 15, 2009, 04:10:27 pm »

The AI has one counter-benefit when it comes to rainbow decks. The quantum tower bug means that they have far more quanta than they should.

But I guess people don't design decks (other than rare farms) based on how the AI will play them in t50. It's just a failing of the AI.

xunling

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AI issue in top 50 decks. https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=1166.msg297#msg297
« Reply #2 on: December 15, 2009, 04:10:27 pm »

I hadn't heard of the tower bug. I guess all that extra quanta from the bug is part of the problem :s Extra quanta would mean the AI draws even faster than expected.

It's interesting that you say that top50 decks arn't designed with AI play in mind. That hadn't really crossed my mind. Maybe designing top50 decks that will play well with the AI is something to look into by the community (I'm a bit too scrub to do so at this stage)   

Pilchard123

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AI issue in top 50 decks. https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=1166.msg298#msg298
« Reply #3 on: December 15, 2009, 04:10:27 pm »

You do realise skipping games loses you score and gold/electrum, right?

xunling

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AI issue in top 50 decks. https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=1166.msg299#msg299
« Reply #4 on: December 15, 2009, 04:10:27 pm »

You do realise skipping games loses you score and gold/electrum, right?
With the top50 games you can return to menu before starting them and then try for a different opponent with out losing score or gold.

Oh yeah here's teh promised list thus far. there is a few more but i didn't note down the names:
broganbogan :- card out, full HP
snurf76 :- card out,
jimezzel :- card out (sp?)
azraeel:- Card out, full HP

rawr

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AI issue in top 50 decks. https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=1166.msg300#msg300
« Reply #5 on: December 15, 2009, 04:10:27 pm »

With the top50 games you can return to menu before starting them and then try for a different opponent with out losing score or gold.
Umm, this isn't true.  Look more closely next time you enter a match, it has already deducted score and electrum.

xunling

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AI issue in top 50 decks. https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=1166.msg301#msg301
« Reply #6 on: December 15, 2009, 04:10:27 pm »

Oh :(

 

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