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« Reply #36 on: December 15, 2009, 10:10:16 pm »

This deck does not rely on perfect draws.  However, it does rely on being able to correctly balance things.  For instance, if you play sundials too early, your chain might break and then you get alpha-struck into the ground (this happened to me once vs. Gemini...ow ow ow my face D: ), but not too late such that you're at some low amount of life and then you get ended by a weapon (Titan, Eagle Eye, Fahrenheit).

Furthermore, you need to be able to balance enough fire quanta to get critical breakpoint right before you deck out, while also balancing to be able to draw your light splash in time to make use of your sundial draw in order to chain them together.

Also, you need to be able to manage your hand size.  Generally, you want to keep drawing cards so you can always be sure your sundial chain will keep going (otherwise you most likely flat out lose), because at the end, you can just play sundials without using their draw ability to slow down a little, but essentially, there are maybe 3 cards total which you can actually afford to discard.  (Explosion, Miracle, Reflect Shield)

The problem with the unupgraded version is that you'll probably miss key breakpoints, such as the necessary 111 fire quanta needed for 201 damage.



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« Reply #37 on: December 15, 2009, 10:10:17 pm »

I absolutely love this deck, and have been considering ways to add Element Masteries to it. D:
QuantumT, is this the final design of your deck on the first page?

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« Reply #38 on: December 15, 2009, 10:10:18 pm »

I love this deck. I'm using this deck with -1 sundial and burning tower and +1 Explosion and Shard of Gratitude. Being a mathematician, I find this style of deck to be too much fun to pass up. I'm pretty sure I'd want to run it at 31 cards (keeping the 6th Sundial) to make the ratios work best. The vast majority of my battles involve me struggling to get the necessary quantum before decking out, as the Shard of Gratitude generally allows me to take far more damage before using my sundial chain. 5 healing per turn essentially negates the false gods' weapon damage. Shard of Gratitude + Sundial is just that ridiculous.

P.S. I do realize that most people aren't going to have one, but if you can put this deck together, you should have the resources to get one. Also, I'm new to the forums, so hi there!

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« Reply #39 on: December 15, 2009, 10:10:18 pm »

yeah, can't seem to get my hands on the Gratitude shards, and I'm not able to contribute to the game. >:(

I'm using Miracle + Holy Flash to achieve Masteries now, works sweet.

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A completely different god deck!! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=887.msg10167#msg10167
« Reply #40 on: December 15, 2009, 10:10:18 pm »

yeah, can't seem to get my hands on the Gratitude shards, and I'm not able to contribute to the game. >:(
Well, then you do not deserve one. :)

I personally think that anyone who can afford a computer, can also afford to donate 5-10 bucks to Zanzarino. This should be done by anyone who is enjoying the game and plays it regularly. And not because you want a Shard but because you want to support this FREE game.

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« Reply #41 on: December 15, 2009, 10:10:18 pm »

The "not able" is a technical issue in my case rather than a financial or even moralistic I suppose.
with that said, I find your patronizing comment offensive :p 

this deck is also able to deal with Top50, even easy to master those if you use the Sundials early on.
I've replaced the Explosion with Flash since I still don't know what to use it for '_'

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« Reply #42 on: December 15, 2009, 10:10:18 pm »

yeah, can't seem to get my hands on the Gratitude shards, and I'm not able to contribute to the game. >:(
You missed the SOG giveaway day. :)  T50 was full of them a few days ago.

I'm using Miracle + Holy Flash to achieve Masteries now, works sweet.
Just curious, how are you getting enough light quanta to use miracle.  Seems like if I'm not using it to draw more cards, I don't get enough fire lances to play.  Maybe I'm playing the deck wrong, though.  Also, how often are you getting mastery?

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« Reply #43 on: December 15, 2009, 10:10:18 pm »

the setup is;
Light Mark
2 Light Tower
1 Reflective Shield
1 Improved Miracle
1 Holy Flash
1 Fahrenheit
13 Burning Tower
6 Fire Lance
6 Sundial

- may consider adding an Explosion. I personally don't find them useful most of the time. 
works fine for me. :)

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« Reply #44 on: December 15, 2009, 10:10:18 pm »

This looks like it really helps with the Elemental Masteries, but cutting to 1 Fahrenheit really hurts your early game. Secondarily, this leaves you with a pressing need to have the requisite Fire Lances, Improved Miracle, and Holy Flash in your hand all the end of the game. 6 Sundials, 6 Fire Lances, and your 2 heal spells all tend to clog up your hand. I run Shard of Gratitude, Explosion and a 2nd Fahrenheit instead of the heal spells and 2nd Light Tower. With those, I just play the first two when I need and can ditch the weapon for 3 fire or at the end of the turn without slowing down. Still, I deal a lot with clogged hands.

Do you get clogged hands, too, and what do you do about them? Has your winning percentage gone down? I get maybe 30-35% elemental masteries so far, but I'm insistent because I REALLY like your version and want it to work better than mine.

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« Reply #45 on: December 15, 2009, 10:10:18 pm »

Eh, I'd totally go for the Gratitude Shard, but as you may notice the conversation above, I still don't have one. :p
Does it heal before or after damage? Because I wonder does it heal in time to get me to 100 before the final blow.
Although, when I think about it, Gods that I need it against would probably blow it up.

This is pretty much how I play it;
- depending on the God, I start dropping Sundials from 50-70% life and/or when my light quanta reaches 3-5, no matter the hp.
This is a precaution since some Gods have very damaging weapons.
- Fahrenheit is always played right away, since it's there only to chip some hp from the Gods to possibly speed up a kill.
- everything in the deck is either for dropping or one of the 8 cards I keep for the last move.
- constant use of the draw ability till I hit about 5-7 cards till deck out. 
- if my hand is cluttered, I fire a Lance at a God that has no or can't heal for some reason. (like blocked Incarnate)
in other case I drop 2 Sundials, since I usually have 1-2 spare Sundials per game or one waiting in the next 5 cards.
- since I ran through my entire deck, it's well within my capabilities to have the exact 8 cards I need.
I however often just have 4-5 Lances with the Miracle and Flash, since I probably used a Lance to get out of a tight hand.
- 2 Fahrenheit's clutter up, especially if you keep drawing cards like me. They're often destroyed or blocked anyway.
- I kinda sometimes run short of Light quanta for the finishing move when rushing Sundials.
I still manage to pull off a Mastery if I pace myself on it, though.


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« Reply #46 on: December 15, 2009, 10:10:19 pm »

If you have a Shard of Gratitude and are 5 or less HP from max, then landing a killing blow with a Fahrenheit will be immediately followed by healing to full, before the game registers your win. Here's how I play mine:

- Play Fahrenheit and Gratitude ASAP, with priority to Fahrenheit.
- Play Sundials before 50 life so you can keep your health safe.
- Play Explosion on Discord and Arsenic ASAP, otherwise save for Phase Shield/Dissipation Field, and lastly for other weapons to ensure Elemental Mastery.
- A second Fahrenheit is huge for gods like Seism, Scorpio, Morte, and Chaos Lord. For example, against Scorpio, being able to rely on an early Fahrenheit to do a good 80 damage is insane. With Explosion for his Arsenic and Shard of Gratitude to slow down his Deadly Poisons, you have time to Fire Lance his first Physalias. It's not an EM, but it's usually a very stable, easy victory.
- Usually I'll have 5-6 Light Quanta from my mark saved up before I need to start playing Sundials, so I get enough drawing in even when the Light Tower is one of my last cards. Of course, drawing it early makes my play easier and prevents me from dealing with too many Sundials in hand.

FG Weapons are the main reason I don't get consistent Masteries, but I'm mostly focused on my win percentage. I think I'm still gonna try yours for fun.

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A completely different god deck!! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=887.msg10480#msg10480
« Reply #47 on: December 15, 2009, 10:10:19 pm »

What you say about Shard of Gratitude healing after weapon damage isn't true. The weapon slot acts after all of your other permanents have acted. This holds true for all pillars and holds true for SoG.

 

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