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Wyvern | Elite Wyvern https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=11054.msg136024#msg136024
« on: August 11, 2010, 07:10:07 pm »
NAME:
Wyvern
ELEMENT:
Other
COST:
7
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
6|4
ABILITY:
: Evolution.
Wyvern turns into the
dragon of your mark.
NAME:
Elite Wyvern
ELEMENT:
Other
COST:
7
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
6|4
ABILITY:
: Evolution.
Wyvern turns into the
dragon of your mark.
ART:
A drawing by Hyroen. Will do for now.
IDEA:
Hyroen
NOTES:
Does not consider Leaf Dragon the Dragon of :life Life.

: 1 Mirror Quanta.

Mirror quanta are used to denote 1 quanta matching your mark. No longer will we have to explain that the cost must match the mark.

Other quanta has always been used to refer to an absolute amount of quanta regardless of elemental affinity. In my opinion, this is one view, and can be denoted by :rainbow. The problem with Other quanta has always been the balancing issue that arises by the playing of Cremation or Supernova.
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Re: Wyvern | Elite Wyvern https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=11054.msg136104#msg136104
« Reply #1 on: August 11, 2010, 08:22:13 pm »
The problem with Other creatures is that one nova can cover up to a 12 cost other creature.  According to my calculations, if this were a specific element, it would cost 7 quanta or so.  However, this needs to be increased by a lot, given this is an Other creature.  Since 7 of one specific quanta requires 7 dedicated pillars, this should require 7 quantum pillars, or 21 random quanta. 
But I see you made an effort with the Aspectral ability, so that would help some.  However, you can still play three of these with one Supernova and still have the low upkeep cost.  I would suggest the cost be about 15?

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Re: Wyvern | Elite Wyvern https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=11054.msg136146#msg136146
« Reply #2 on: August 11, 2010, 09:00:43 pm »
24 Damage for 6 :entropy is probably a big no-no... Hm, will analyze this further when I get back home.

My Aspectral passive ability was an attempt to make it not very Quantum Pillar | Quantum Tower friendly and yet still be viable in Mono, Dual and Tri-Elemental decks. Keeping that in mind, feel free to help by suggesting changes, moreso towards the passive ability.

I want Aspectral to open new doors for Other cards and having said that, feel free to modify it and use it in a manner wherein it can be applied to all Other cards that need the modification.
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Re: Wyvern | Elite Wyvern https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=11054.msg343380#msg343380
« Reply #3 on: May 30, 2011, 06:57:33 pm »
Version 2.0

With the concept of Mirror Quanta , the Aspectral ability was no longer needed and can be balanced irregardless of Cremation and Supernova.

Discuss.
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Re: Wyvern | Elite Wyvern https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=11054.msg343425#msg343425
« Reply #4 on: May 30, 2011, 08:02:51 pm »
Why exclude Leaf Dragon?
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Re: Wyvern | Elite Wyvern https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=11054.msg343430#msg343430
« Reply #5 on: May 30, 2011, 08:07:54 pm »
Why exclude Leaf Dragon?
Because that imbalances the card and Leaf Dragon has been decided that it's not an actual dragon - see Twin-Headed Wyvern (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,20663.msg284892#msg284892).

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Re: Wyvern | Elite Wyvern https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=11054.msg343433#msg343433
« Reply #6 on: May 30, 2011, 08:10:53 pm »
Ah. I see.
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Re: Wyvern | Elite Wyvern https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=11054.msg343455#msg343455
« Reply #7 on: May 30, 2011, 08:41:33 pm »
Search fail: what is Mirror Quantum?  Linky?
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Re: Wyvern | Elite Wyvern https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=11054.msg343458#msg343458
« Reply #8 on: May 30, 2011, 08:43:36 pm »
Search fail: what is Mirror Quantum?  Linky?
Linky, with quote.
: 1 Mirror Quanta.

Mirror quanta are used to denote 1 quanta matching your mark. No longer will we have to explain that the cost must match the mark.

Other quanta has always been used to refer to an absolute amount of quanta regardless of elemental affinity. In my opinion, this is one view, and can be denoted by :rainbow. The problem with Other quanta has always been the balancing issue that arises by the playing of Cremation or Supernova.
^Like Bloodshadow and I did with Void I would advise people using the Mirror Concept to put this quote in their "Notes Section", so people don't have to go back and forth between threads.

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Re: Wyvern | Elite Wyvern https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=11054.msg343676#msg343676
« Reply #9 on: May 31, 2011, 02:56:13 am »
Derp. Mirror quanta explanation now in OP. I knew I was forgetting something before going to work.
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Re: Wyvern | Elite Wyvern https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=11054.msg364241#msg364241
« Reply #10 on: July 11, 2011, 07:54:50 am »
Bump for possible Pseudoquanta milestone.

Can this card now be added HERE (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,28351.0.html)?

I kind of lost the prerequisites for PQ cards to enter the Crucible.    ._.
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Re: Wyvern | Elite Wyvern https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=11054.msg369675#msg369675
« Reply #11 on: July 22, 2011, 05:40:17 am »
Updated.
    New art.[/li]Upgraded version will evolve into upgraded dragon.[/li]

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