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Weeping Angel | Weeping Angel https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=29962.msg381120#msg381120
« on: August 17, 2011, 04:32:34 am »
NAME:
Weeping Angel
ELEMENT:
Darkness
COST:
:darkness
TYPE:
Permanent
ATK|HP:
TEXT:
Weeping Angel becomes a creature while cloaked
NAME:
Weeping Angel
ELEMENT:
Darkness
COST:
:darkness
TYPE:
Permanent
ATK|HP:
TEXT:
Weeping Angel becomes a creature while cloaked
ART:
public domain: http://www.sxc.hu/photo/252881
IDEA:
moomoose, cloaked activated mechanic originally from blood shadow and xenocidius
NOTES:
inspired by dr who and http://www.toplessrobot.com/2011/08/the_most_terrifying_cat_in_the_who-niverse.php
the stats for the angels as creatures is 10|4, to make it worth the while, its effectively a dragon while cloaked, but useless while a permanent.
fractal and mitosis effects on the angels as creatures will produce permanents for the first turn of their existence, which will switch to creatures at the end of the turn.  likewise, weeping angels put into play while there is a cloak active will turn into creatures at the end of the turn. 
PUd angels as creatures will produce creature copies.  after an angel reverts from a creature back to a permanent, any status effects, damage sustained or any alteration other than immaterial will be removed.  and as such, the only status which will transfer from permanent to as a creature will be immaterial (aka protect artifact).
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Re: Weeping Angel | Weeping Angel https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=29962.msg381121#msg381121
« Reply #1 on: August 17, 2011, 04:35:48 am »
Nice. I like it. I like the pic too. I think it will work nicely, but don't be afraid to go high. I would agree with you that 10/10 is about good. Maybe even higher.

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Re: Weeping Angel | Weeping Angel https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=29962.msg381123#msg381123
« Reply #2 on: August 17, 2011, 04:38:22 am »
This suits well with some other ideas I've been throwing around, namely monsters that turn into permanents, this is the opposite.
I quite like this.
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Re: Weeping Angel | Weeping Angel https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=29962.msg381126#msg381126
« Reply #3 on: August 17, 2011, 04:48:12 am »
I've seen many game ideas inspired by Weeping Angels.

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Re: Weeping Angel | Weeping Angel https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=29962.msg381129#msg381129
« Reply #4 on: August 17, 2011, 04:59:45 am »
I think 5 :darkness for a random creature is useless. Fate Egg is a 1-card combo, and only needs 4 :time. This needs 2 cards, and 9 :darkness. Worthless, since you can't even buff it to give it attack.
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Re: Weeping Angel | Weeping Angel https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=29962.msg381148#msg381148
« Reply #5 on: August 17, 2011, 07:07:14 am »
I think 5 :darkness for a random creature is useless. Fate Egg is a 1-card combo, and only needs 4 :time. This needs 2 cards, and 9 :darkness. Worthless, since you can't even buff it to give it attack.
Yea... except Fate Egg's totally vulnerable to all CCs especially since it has 1 HP...?


Need some clarification on the card. I originally thought the permanent moves to a creature slot and become a creature 'Weeping Angel'. If it is random creature as Nepycros implied, then I would agree that it's useless.

Also, if the cloak disappears, what would happen to the creature?
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Re: Weeping Angel | Weeping Angel https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=29962.msg381155#msg381155
« Reply #6 on: August 17, 2011, 07:40:40 am »
"the stats for the angels as creatures is currently up-in-the-air, i was thinking 10|10, to make it worth the while, its effectively a dragon while cloaked, but useless while a permanent."

Also, if the cloak disappears, what would happen to the creature?
The way it's phrased, I think it becomes a permanent again when uncloaked ...
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Re: Weeping Angel | Weeping Angel https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=29962.msg381173#msg381173
« Reply #7 on: August 17, 2011, 09:42:58 am »
Don't Blink.

Anyway, i do kinda like the idea. it'll give Cloak some more <3.
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Re: Weeping Angel | Weeping Angel https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=29962.msg381192#msg381192
« Reply #8 on: August 17, 2011, 11:46:52 am »
zomg that episode was beast

What happens to it when the cloak was removed/negated by the opponent? Does it remain a creature for the remainder of the turn or does it switch back to a permanent immediately? Also, what happens when the perm slots are already full as the cloak disappears?

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Re: Weeping Angel | Weeping Angel https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=29962.msg381194#msg381194
« Reply #9 on: August 17, 2011, 11:52:45 am »
quick answers-
its not a random creature like fate egg, it stays a weeping angel with set (really good, relatively) stats, the word "random" was not used in the text.

when cloak is removed, i think the most appropriate response is for it to instantly become a permanent again.  in the event that all permanent slots are somehow filled up (rarity, but i suppose a bad deck could manage this), the angel will go poof, and you will have nobody to blame but yourself.
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Re: Weeping Angel | Weeping Angel https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=29962.msg381201#msg381201
« Reply #10 on: August 17, 2011, 12:30:42 pm »
2 cards and a total of 9  :darkness | 7  :darkness... And it lasts only for three turns? That would need to be a hell of a creature, more powerful than most dragons.

Nice little paradox here: if it's not powerful enough the combo won't be worth it, and if it's too powerful it will be broken. I think the best way to deal with it is reducing the cost (a lot) and giving it slightly-less-awesome stats. What about a cost of 3 | 2? That's 2 cards + 7 | 5 quanta, enough to warrant a 9 attack creature...
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Re: Weeping Angel | Weeping Angel https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=29962.msg381216#msg381216
« Reply #11 on: August 17, 2011, 01:30:02 pm »
"And it lasts only for three turns?"

it goes back to being a permanent after cloak expires, but it can be brought back with another cloak.  bringing down the costs if a definite consideration
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