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Aetheric Ray | Aetheric Blast https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=29886.msg380319#msg380319
« on: August 14, 2011, 10:04:06 pm »
NAME:
Aetheric Ray
ELEMENT:
Aether
COST:
5 :aether
TYPE:
Spell
ATK|HP:
TEXT:
Deal 3 damage to your opponent for each card in your hand
NAME:
Aetheric Blast
ELEMENT:
Aether
COST:
5 :aether
TYPE:
Spell
ATK|HP:
TEXT:
Deal 4 damage to your opponent for each card in your hand
ART:
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IDEA:
moomoose
NOTES:
originally suggested within the idea factory
the card being played does not count as part of your hand when damage is calculated.
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Re: Aetheric Ray | Aetheric Blast https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=29886.msg380424#msg380424
« Reply #1 on: August 15, 2011, 05:41:24 am »
Me like... maybe a little OP since you don't have to do much to deal the 24, but idk what you'd change, so as of now I give you an Almost-Seal-of-Approval-Thumbs-Up!
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Re: Aetheric Ray | Aetheric Blast https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=29886.msg380468#msg380468
« Reply #2 on: August 15, 2011, 11:09:48 am »
I find it extremely underpowered. Aether usually has high-cost cards, yes, which means it has a lot of pillars, and after a few turns can play creatures and shields rather fast. Oh sure, Fractal, but that would require all your aether quanta + 5 :aether + 1 card (that you'll discard) + 1 turn. All that do deal a simple 24 damage that you could get by using the two immortals you could put out in that time for a long-lasting, really pesky 8/10 damage per turn.
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Re: Aetheric Ray | Aetheric Blast https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=29886.msg380469#msg380469
« Reply #3 on: August 15, 2011, 11:13:11 am »
^^^ That, and it's worthless once the opponent sets up a Mirror Shield.

I would have said to let it target creatures as well, but Lightning would still outshine it. D:

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Re: Aetheric Ray | Aetheric Blast https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=29886.msg380471#msg380471
« Reply #4 on: August 15, 2011, 11:23:33 am »
Oh sure, Fractal, but that would require all your aether quanta + 5 :aether + 1 card (that you'll discard) + 1 turn.
Or you can play only one of your creatures, draw a card for 8 cards and gain 5 aether, and deal 24 damage before placing the fractaled cards onto the field.

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Re: Aetheric Ray | Aetheric Blast https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=29886.msg380475#msg380475
« Reply #5 on: August 15, 2011, 11:57:58 am »
its not too dissimilar from explosive gas in terms of how much damage it does, but instead of dealing 1 damage to all creatures, this can deal up to 8 more damage.  and it is a good point that you can utilize this in pairing with fractal to produce a strong effect. 

but also to the people saying it is UP- this does have OTK potential if you save up cards and quanta, staying alive with dim shields if necessary. 28+24+20+16+12=100 for 25 :aether.  but its not a likely scenario, its much more likely that you can use creatures to get rid of the first ~50 damage and then use two of these with 7 and 6 cards in hand respectively to finish them off.  its an easier combo to pull off than fractal sparks, even though this could be used in combination with a fractal sparks deck.

^^^ That, and it's worthless once the opponent sets up a Mirror Shield.

I would have said to let it target creatures as well, but Lightning would still outshine it. D:
uhm, yeah, mirror shield makes firebolt worthless too.  but you still dont see many mirror shields being put into play.

it doesnt target creatures because that is not this card's purpose, i knew lightning already handles CC fine.  this card is sort of like aether's nuke spell, but unlike firebolt/siphon/frostbolt it is not dependent on having a stockpile of quanta to power it, or explosive gas being exposed to PC for one+ turns.


or you could have it do 28 damage four turns in a row if you set it up to do so
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Re: Aetheric Ray | Aetheric Blast https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=29886.msg380568#msg380568
« Reply #6 on: August 15, 2011, 06:47:56 pm »
Also, correct me if I'm wrong, but could be used in conjunction with Mindgate:

8 Cards in hand, 4 of them Aetheric Blast
28 Damage
Mindgate
28 Damage
24 Damage
20 Damage
100 Damage for just 22  :aether (26 if you count the Mindgate).

Does require Mindgate to be in play and the opponent to have at least one card in their deck (fixed). Also there's a potential 168 damage in one turn if you had 5 Mindgates in play + 6 Aetheric blast in your hand and at least 40  :aether. I think it actually has very good synergy with Mindgate since those can (slowly) fill your hand without consuming all  :aether like fractal.

Either way I don't see a problem with this as it specifically targets the opponent, just like Unstable gas, making you unable to reflect it off your own shield.

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Re: Aetheric Ray | Aetheric Blast https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=29886.msg380569#msg380569
« Reply #7 on: August 15, 2011, 06:51:00 pm »
yep, mindgate is another good combo.  and by "at least one card in their hand" i'll assume you meant deck instead of hand, but yeah, thats a good point.

if anything i think it may be too powerful as is, but hearing people suspect it to be UP was a tad surprising.  i thought i would have to argue that it isnt OP.
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Re: Aetheric Ray | Aetheric Blast https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=29886.msg380572#msg380572
« Reply #8 on: August 15, 2011, 06:54:41 pm »
Right I meant "at least one card in their deck," thanks. Fixed!

 

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