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Vice Versa | Vice Versa https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=24147.msg308498#msg308498
« on: April 08, 2011, 10:11:00 pm »


NAME:
Vice Versa
ELEMENT:
Aether
COST:
4 :aether
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
4|2
TEXT:
:entropy :entropy Swap: Swap stats with target creature.
When Vice Versa dies, all Swaps are reverted if possible.
NAME:
Vice Versa
ELEMENT:
Aether
COST:
3 :aether
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
3|2
TEXT:
:entropy Swap: Swap stats with target creature.
When Vice Versa dies, all Swaps are reverted if possible.
ART:
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IDEA:
Anarook
NOTES:
First Aether with an entropy ability! Woooo!
SERIES:
Previous Ver.



NAME:
Swap
ELEMENT:
Entropy
COST:
2 :entropy
TYPE:
Spell
ATK|HP:
TEXT:
Switch the ATK and HP of one of your opponents monsters with one of yours.
NAME:
Swap
ELEMENT:
Entropy
COST:
1 :entropy
TYPE:
Spell
ATK|HP:
TEXT:
Switch the ATK and HP of one of your opponents monsters with one of yours.
ART:
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IDEA:
Anarook
NOTES:
Original idea was to switch a creatures ATK and HP, but I remebered the controversy that created with Flying Titan >.>
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Re: Swap|Swap https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=24147.msg308526#msg308526
« Reply #1 on: April 08, 2011, 10:46:56 pm »
Hmm... interesting effect, I have a special place in my heart for cards that use your opponent's strength against himself (see two of my Armory cards for proof of that, hehe).  But I think this deserves a cooler name, and while its effect is similar in principle to Antimatter, it almost seems like a Darkness card.  Especially since most Darkness creatures have low stats.  I can even see this being a creature with a one-time ability, like Deja Vu or Lycanthrope.

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Re: Swap|Swap https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=24147.msg309001#msg309001
« Reply #2 on: April 09, 2011, 08:08:45 pm »
Quote from: johannhowitzer
its effect is similar in principle to Antimatter
no?
its closer to parallel universe, it is almost like swapping creatures completely except you keep the abilities.

Quote from: johannhowitzer
I can even see this being a creature with a one-time ability, like Deja Vu or Lycanthrope 
i say it should be both.  the spell could be entropy, and then some random creature could have the ability and it costs entropy to activate

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Re: Swap|Swap https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=24147.msg309009#msg309009
« Reply #3 on: April 09, 2011, 08:29:50 pm »
Quote from: johannhowitzer
I can even see this being a creature with a one-time ability, like Deja Vu or Lycanthrope 
i say it should be both.  the spell could be entropy, and then some random creature could have the ability and it costs entropy to activate
I agree, though i reckon the creature with the ability should be a rare, such as Arctic squid with Freeze ability (freeze card).

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Re: Swap|Swap https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=24147.msg310968#msg310968
« Reply #4 on: April 13, 2011, 11:32:06 am »
Not sure where this is going yet =P
Anyways, round 2, what if this swapped the abilities of 2 cards?
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Re: Swap|Swap https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=24147.msg311005#msg311005
« Reply #5 on: April 13, 2011, 12:52:08 pm »
This card requires a double targeting, doesn't it? You have to target the 2 creatures which swap stats, right?

I like the idea but I find it too cheap for the effect:
  • Let say you have a hard hitter in game (a ruby dragon). I play a photon and this and bingo I have a ruby dragon for 1 :entropy and you lost yours.
  • Let say you have a creature with an annoying ability (Oty or squid).  I play a spark and this and bingo I have a criter for my BE for 1 :entropy and your annoying creature will dye next turn.

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Re: Swap|Swap https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=24147.msg311174#msg311174
« Reply #6 on: April 13, 2011, 06:54:04 pm »
Better than me throwing a lightning for the same price and killing off your monster...
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Re: Swap|Swap https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=24147.msg311297#msg311297
« Reply #7 on: April 13, 2011, 09:57:46 pm »
That's why I compared it to Antimatter.  It does roughly double the effect of killing a creature - Antimatter a Ruby Dragon and you gain 15 healing and your opponent loses 15 attack - a total of 30.  Swap a Spark with a Ruby Dragon and you gain 15 attack and your opponent loses 15 attack - a total of 30.

The double-targeting issue is actually the main reason I suggested making it a creature.

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Re: Swap|Swap https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=24147.msg311337#msg311337
« Reply #8 on: April 13, 2011, 11:03:13 pm »
Good idea and it fits entropy. But double targeting mechanism is generally frowned upon. Making it a creature would make it cooler and make it more elements friendly.
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Re: Swap|Swap https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=24147.msg311399#msg311399
« Reply #9 on: April 14, 2011, 12:02:53 am »
Let's play with the creature idea then.
Let's take a shot at it.
Vice Versa
Cost: 4|3(5|4?)
Stats: 3|2, 4|3
Effect: Swap stats with the target creature. When Vice Versa dies, all swaps are reverted.
 
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Re: Swap|Swap https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=24147.msg311401#msg311401
« Reply #10 on: April 14, 2011, 12:05:41 am »
Let's play with the creature idea then.
Let's take a shot at it.
Vice Versa
Cost: 4|3(5|4?)
Stats: 3|2, 4|3
Effect: Swap stats with the target creature. When Vice Versa dies, all swaps are reverted.
Does Vice Versa target a creature when entering play or it is an ability that permanently swaps stats with target creature or is it something else ?
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Re: Swap|Swap https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=24147.msg311421#msg311421
« Reply #11 on: April 14, 2011, 12:27:50 am »
Swap is an active ability used only once. Activated by clicking Vice Versa like all other active effects.
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