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Title: Treant | Elder Treant
Post by: moomoose on March 25, 2012, 02:55:31 am

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NAME: Treant ELEMENT: Life COST: 8 :life TYPE: Creature ATK|HP: 7|5 TEXT: Barkskin: Reduce damage taken from sources by 1.  Immune to poison.	NAME: Elder Treant ELEMENT: Life COST: 6 :life TYPE: Creature ATK|HP: 7|5 TEXT: Barkskin: Reduce damage taken from sources by 1.  Immune to poison.

ART: hawanja (links will be posted eventually) IDEA: moomoose NOTES: A mid-hitter for life, between kfc and the dragon.  And iirc 7 is one of the sweet spots for adrenaline.  The atk/cost ratio is worse than frogs (3 upped frogs will deal 15 damage for the same cost as the upped treant) but it is sturdier and slightly resistant to damaging skills/spells/abilities/etc and immune to poisoning. Barkskin is a passive ability, and may pair nicely with acceleration. SERIES:

Title: Re: Treant | Elder Treant
Post by: Drake_XIV on March 25, 2012, 02:59:21 am

Just in reference to your Notw, but is the lowering of health with Acceleration/Overdrive count as damage?

Title: Re: Treant | Elder Treant
Post by: moomoose on March 25, 2012, 03:01:28 am

well yeah.

Title: Re: Treant | Elder Treant
Post by: bogtro on March 25, 2012, 04:11:26 am

Seems like a nice upper-midrange creature for life. How would it interact with fire bolt? 3 damage per 10 quanta minus 1, or 2 damage per 10 quanta? Fire Bolt's animation is of several bolts hitting, so not sure.

Is Barkskin active (can be lobo'd) or passive (can't be lobo'd)?

Title: Re: Treant | Elder Treant
Post by: waterzx on March 25, 2012, 05:34:48 am

Quote from: moomoose on March 25, 2012, 03:01:28 am

well yeah.

Wouldn't this make it a little OP ?

Among the current in-game creatures, Armagio is the most ideal creature for acceleration because its massive HP negates the damage caused by acceleration. But Armagio begins with only 1 attack.

On the other hand, Treant begins with 6 more attack and costs only 3 more quanta, that's a 2:1 damage to cost ratio.

Not sure if the combo with acceleration is intentional. If this combo is not intertional, I would suggest "reduce damage by 1 for every 2 damage taken from single source" so acceleration won't be affected.



Anyway, this card does fit the life theme and fills a void in the life cards.

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Life elementals rely on a wide variety of powerful and different creatures. <-- not so true without a mid-hitter

Title: Re: Treant | Elder Treant
Post by: furballdn on March 25, 2012, 05:44:43 am

Hmm. Looks quite good. I like it! :D

Title: Re: Treant | Elder Treant
Post by: moomoose on March 25, 2012, 03:05:16 pm

bog- firebolt etc would have the total damage reduced by 1.  and it states in the notes it is passive.

water- look up the changes to purify, and then in the trainer test purify on a creature with acceleration.  their hp will not change, even if it is a phoenix or some other creature with 1hp.  if it is OK for purify to act this way, i think it is OK for barkskin to act this way.

Title: Re: Treant | Elder Treant
Post by: ARTHANASIOS on July 20, 2012, 02:58:36 pm

I love this idea. However, I have a few questions:
1) Is Fire Shield able to deal any damageat at all to Treant? Is Thunderstorm able to damage it?
2) Is Lightning or Rage Potion going to instant kill it or both they will just deal 4 damage and Treant survives?
3) Is Liquid Shadow grants Treant only Vampire ability without poisoning?
4) Has Alfatoxin any effect on Treant?
 Thanks! :D

Title: Re: Treant | Elder Treant
Post by: furballdn on July 20, 2012, 06:25:03 pm

Quote from: ARTHANASIOS on July 20, 2012, 02:58:36 pm

I love this idea. However, I have a few questions:
1) Is Fire Shield able to deal any damageat at all to Treant? Is Thunderstorm able to damage it?
2) Is Lightning or Rage Potion going to instant kill it or both they will just deal 4 damage and Treant survives?
3) Is Liquid Shadow grants Treant only Vampire ability without poisoning?
4) Has Alfatoxin any effect on Treant?
 Thanks! :D

1) 1 damage is reduced by 1 to deal 0.
2) Both would deal 4 damage.
3) Treant is immune to poisoning, so no poison.
4) Aflatoxin is a type of poison. Treant is immune to poison.

Title: Re: Treant | Elder Treant
Post by: blarp on July 26, 2012, 03:35:38 am

I'm not sure the whole immune to poison is necessary... It's sturdy, but expensive, and slow for an element that usually rushes. although it'd be hard to get rid of a mitosis'd one of these and not horrible with epi. seems a little OP with acceleration. should definitely be overwritten by that which would make it lobotimizable.