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Diamond Stone | Diamond Gem https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=16786.msg214783#msg214783
« on: December 02, 2010, 03:38:27 am »
NAME:
Diamond Stone
ELEMENT:
Light
COST:
4 :light
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
1|1
TEXT:
Diamond Stone can not be targeted.
:light : Charge
Target creature gains +1/+1.
NAME:
Diamond Gem
ELEMENT:
Light
COST:
3 :light
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
1|1
TEXT:
Diamond Gem can not be targeted.
:light : Charge
Target creature gains +1/+1.
ART:
Jacob Philpott (Ajit), original photo by Dori-Stock (http://dori-stock.deviantart.com/)
IDEA:
Ajit
NOTES:
- Obviously since it can't be targeted, it cannot perform Charge on itself.

Changes:
- Increased Diamond Stone's Attack by 1 to make it killable.
SERIES:
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Re: Diamond Stone | Diamond Gem https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=16786.msg214820#msg214820
« Reply #1 on: December 02, 2010, 04:50:40 am »
I can't say I like this card. Mainly becauseit can't be killed, period. Only the upped version can be killed. Which means, there is no reason to upgrade this card. it's more powerful unupgraded. So it's basically a powerstick. Granted +1/+1 isn't too fast of a growth, but add a few of these to any deck with some to decent Light quanta gain and you've suddenly greatly increased your deck's power, and there is nothing your opponent can ever do about it.

I'd say make them both 1/1 and lower the card cost for the upped by 1-2.
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Re: Diamond Stone | Diamond Gem https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=16786.msg214834#msg214834
« Reply #2 on: December 02, 2010, 05:12:08 am »
I'm with you on upping attack of Diamond Stone in order for it to be somewhat kill-able.

But if the non-stop increases is too much, would changing it from +1/+1 to +1/-1 be better?

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Re: Diamond Stone | Diamond Gem https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=16786.msg214839#msg214839
« Reply #3 on: December 02, 2010, 05:19:01 am »
I think +1/+1 is fine, even with multiple on the field. It would cost 9 :light quanta to up a creature +6/+6 which I think is fair. it was just the unkillableness of it that made it a little over the top.
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Re: Diamond Stone | Diamond Gem https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=16786.msg215088#msg215088
« Reply #4 on: December 02, 2010, 05:32:02 pm »
OK cool thanks for the help, I'll probably do that soon

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Re: Diamond Stone | Diamond Gem https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=16786.msg244859#msg244859
« Reply #5 on: January 11, 2011, 02:42:21 am »
Let me start off by saying I love the series and everything you have done with it.  This is a good card idea.  The immortal effect is very important for this card because every type of CC that attacks creature's healths would kill this.  On top of that, this creature would be one of the first creature targeted by CC spells because of its ability.  I think that, for at least the unupgraded, that the ability should cost two light quanta instead of one, to stop excessive use of this ability.  If that were to happen, the price to play them should go down to 3/2.  Another way to stop the excessive use of this ability is to have the diamond able to target each creature only once.  I think that the upgraded needs to have a bigger difference from the unupgraded.  To solve that, it could either become 2/1 or have the unupped skill cost two and the upped skill cost one.  I could see a few decks that could use this, starting with a mono pegasus deck that uses these and blessings.  I could also see a Vader Sader variation that uses these to make the daggers and crusaders heal more.  This could be used to start dune scorp and deathstalker decks.  This card has endless combinations.  Great job with the card idea and excellent job with the card art, I liked how you made it shine the light symbol.
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Re: Diamond Stone | Diamond Gem https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=16786.msg244866#msg244866
« Reply #6 on: January 11, 2011, 02:57:11 am »
I'd suggest having unupped kill-able, and the upped immaterial. Or maybe have the unupped do +2/-1, and upped do +1/+1.

edit: i just realized a deck with this + otyugh would be amazing.

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Re: Diamond Stone | Diamond Gem https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=16786.msg245567#msg245567
« Reply #7 on: January 12, 2011, 01:39:55 am »
Thanks for the input guys :) and in-depth analysis jippy99!

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Re: Diamond Stone | Diamond Gem https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=16786.msg260029#msg260029
« Reply #8 on: January 29, 2011, 11:46:36 pm »
I believe the 1 attack version of this card is completely fair, and would not be against the upped version having 2 health, actually.
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