Time Bomb | Time Terror

[Drake_XIV]

Mitosis would... ugh. The ultimate Fractal target

But then TSTROM

[Captain Scibra]

Fractal this, wait.  Dessication, then BOOM!!!!  3 card OTK.

[Drake_XIV]

Fractal this, wait.  Dessication, then BOOM!!!!  3 card OTK.

Nope, must be killed by its ability.

And you mean Dry Spell.

[Aves]

Looks nice, I think this sounds like a fun card, if a bit UP? Not sure on that.

[krackocloud]

Having a hard time determining if it's UP or OP, tbh.
Against Aether it'll probably do a really bad job. Otherwise, it seems like a decent card. Maybe slightly reminiscent of GotP?

[Drake_XIV]

Just to compare...


Time Bomb v Unstable Gas

Unstable Gas
Playing Cost [6 ] + Ignite (Duo Cost) [2 ] + 1 Card + 1 Turn  for 20 damage

Time Bomb
Playing Cost [1 ] + Tick (Mono Cost) (x3) [3 ] + 1 Card + 3 Turn for 10 damage

I'm disregarding UG's mass AoE in cost since it also affects both players' side, although without it, it'd probably cost more.


Time Terror v Lightning Storm v Firestorm

Time Terror
Playing Cost [2 ] + Tick (Mono Cost) (x3) [3 ] + 1 Card Cost + 3 Turn Cost for 4 AoE

Lightning Storm
Playing Cost (x2) [4 ] + 2 Card Cost for 4 AoE

Firestorm
Playing Cost [5 ] + 1 Card Cost for 3 AoE


Verdict:
Unupgraded is slightly OP in the face of UG, especially since it can targeted by Fractal or Mitosis, which is something of note with SoR.

Upgraded is definitely UP in the face of straightforward AoE CC.  Could probably be compared closer to Improved Plague...

[krackocloud]

Thanks for putting the time and thought into that. Here's a rough idea of what I could do.

Time Bomb:
-Lower explosion power. This is probably the easiest way to go. I'll probably nerf it to 9, but more nerfing is plausible. How low can it get before Lightning overtakes it though?
-Increase quanta cost by 1?

Terror:
-Increase explosion power. However, it's tough to balance this because any AoE above 5 is probably too strong for its own good.
-Increase attack. Probably redundant since this card is meant to be destroyed.
-Changed explosion into the same type as Bomb, just stronger. Ultimately I may have no choice. Maybe make it deal 12 damage to opponent? This is easy and straightforward, but it kind of loses its flair.

The original idea, actually, was for both versions to damage both the opponent and his/her creatures. But there wasn't enough room on the card :U

[Rutarete]

... I don't find your comparisons very apt drake. I don't like your comparisons. They make sense in theory to me, but the simple fact that it has to be killed by its own ability and that using it makes it more and more prone to CC just makes it too UP.

Cool idea though

[Drake_XIV]

... I don't find your comparisons very apt drake. I don't like your comparisons. They make sense in theory to me, but the simple fact that it has to be killed by its own ability and that using it makes it more and more prone to CC just makes it too UP.

Cool idea though

Well, Bomb isn't so much OP as it is overshadowing Unstable Gas, which is struggling on its own.

However, I feel that its CC weakness can actually be ignored to an extent considering how easy it would be to get a huge number out.

My thoughts on balancing?

Give Time Bomb +1 | +1 while reducing ability damage to 8

Drop Time Terror's cost to 1

[krackocloud]

... I don't find your comparisons very apt drake. I don't like your comparisons. They make sense in theory to me, but the simple fact that it has to be killed by its own ability and that using it makes it more and more prone to CC just makes it too UP.

Cool idea though

Thanks.

When you think about it, Time Bomb works a lot like a spell, so it's really not that bad having it kill itself - not too different from how spells are one-use.

My thoughts on balancing?

Give Time Bomb +1 | +1 while reducing ability damage to 8

Drop Time Terror's cost to 1

Will do for Time Terror. Making its explosion's like Bomb's is still viable though, so if anyone has any thoughts about this, shoot.

As for Bomb, so the countdown becomes 4? That makes it 5 quanta for 12 damage. Still pretty standard output, but this might make it a little too easy for opponents to circumvent. Even if you didn't opt to get rid of it via CC, 4 turns is pretty a pretty long time to wait for detonation.
I guess the real question is if I want to make Bomb and Terror more like actual creatures, and have their abilities take the backseat. If so then the change works relatively well. Otherwise, I'd likely keep Bomb as is.

[Drake_XIV]

Well, then just +1|0 for Bomb and drop the damage to 8?  In its current state, it is a prime candidate for Fractal and Mitosis and with numbers, CC is not really an issue outside of AoE.

[Hyroen]

This card brings me back a bit to the old days.

Looks similar to the Exploding Pot | Exploding Cauldron, right?

Remember that one guys? Quite a trip through .