Symbiosis | Symbiosis

[Rutarete]

NAME: Symbiosis ELEMENT: Life COST: 6 TYPE: Spell ATK|HP: TEXT: Your Hp is now equal to the total amount of all creatures on your field. If it is higher than your max, it is raised.	NAME: Symbiosis ELEMENT: Life COST: 7 TYPE: Spell ATK|HP: TEXT: Your Hp is now equal to the total amount of all creatures on the field. If it is higher than your max, it is raised.

ART: EmeraldTiger IDEA: Rutarete NOTES: Looking for a better name and thoughts on element placement especially. Would this be better in life or Air? SERIES:

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NAME: Resize ELEMENT: Gravity COST: 3 TYPE: Spell ATK|HP: TEXT: Your Hp is now equal to the total amount of all creatures on your field.	NAME: Resize ELEMENT: Gravity COST: 4 TYPE: Spell ATK|HP: TEXT: Your Hp is now equal to the total amount of all creatures on the field.

ART: Will you make art for this? IDEA: Rutarete NOTES: Looking for a better name and thoughts on element placement especially. Would this be better in life or Air? SERIES:

[dragonsdemesne]

I think it would make sense in Life.  Life is primarily about creatures, and, one could argue, growth, with mitosis and forest spirits.  I think something like 'symbiosis' would be a good name, but I think someone already submitted a card with that name once, so I'm not sure if it's allowed to reuse a name.  I don't see why not, but there might be a rule against it.  I think it should probably cost a lot more than it does, though; it could potentially heal a lot of hp.  It's similar to, but more situational than, Miracle, so it should be cheaper than miracle, but maybe not by a lot.  Maybe something like 11 unupped and 8 upped cost, again going with the -3 reduction parallel with miracle.

[Joseph7]

I think it would make sense in Life.  Life is primarily about creatures, and, one could argue, growth, with mitosis and forest spirits.

I completely agree that this card should be life. Were it gravity, it would be way overpowering, since gravity creatures already have high hp values to begin with. Gravity also has a way to "heal" itself by redirecting attack upon its Armagios and any creature seized by its powerful gravity force spell. I definitely feel that it would be appropriate in life thematically and also mechanically. Life does not have any cards that depend upon variables - heal always heals 20 HP, mitosis always gives the parent function, and so on. Not only this, but some cards are meant to directly go "against" their own element in a way. The fire shield best works against fire, the gravity shield best works against gravity, and so on. Since life creatures do not inherently have high hp values, this card's mechanic would be very balanced were it placed in life. I do like the mechanic, however, if not the element it is in, and I would like to see a card like this in the game.

[Rutarete]

I think something like 'symbiosis' would be a good name, but I think someone already submitted a card with that name once, so I'm not sure if it's allowed to reuse a name.

Funny you should mention that http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,24290.0.html

As for the 11 | 8 cost, I'm not sure it's worth that much, because it has much less effect than miracle, and it takes quite a bit to get over 100 hp (if you're not using gravity). The best use would be Fying Titans. I'll still raise it, but probably around the 8|5-ish range. Also, your card was never submitted to the crucible, so there's no name problems for me submitting it.

I think it would make sense in Life.  Life is primarily about creatures, and, one could argue, growth, with mitosis and forest spirits.

I completely agree that this card should be life. Were it gravity, it would be way overpowering, since gravity creatures already have high hp values to begin with. Gravity also has a way to "heal" itself by redirecting attack upon its Armagios and any creature seized by its powerful gravity force spell. I definitely feel that it would be appropriate in life thematically and also mechanically. Life does not have any cards that depend upon variables - heal always heals 20 HP, mitosis always gives the parent function, and so on. Not only this, but some cards are meant to directly go "against" their own element in a way. The fire shield best works against fire, the gravity shield best works against gravity, and so on. Since life creatures do not inherently have high hp values, this card's mechanic would be very balanced were it placed in life. I do like the mechanic, however, if not the element it is in, and I would like to see a card like this in the game.

I'm glad to hear you say that.

Card updated with new name, cost, and element switch.

[OldTrees]

The wording implies the most it can do is set your hp to 46.

You might have meant "health" rather than "amount".

[Rutarete]

The wording implies the most it can do is set your hp to 46.

You might have meant "health" rather than "amount".

Yes, I meant that. I made a mistake. Will be updating momentarily

[bogtro]

This seems very very strong. A deck with even just some armagios effectively makes this stronger than SS+Miracle. For example,

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is extremely difficult to beat. It consistently has well over 100 HP quite early, and the damage from titans is enough by itself (it's worth noting that it was able to outrush AI3 consistently even without the real card).

[EmeraldTiger]

yes, but the way it was worded before was too limiting.

[ARTHANASIOS]

I really like this idea! It just makes so much sense as a Life ability! Cheers!