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Swordfish | Elite Swordfish https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=43687.msg1002680#msg1002680
« on: September 25, 2012, 07:39:29 pm »
NAME:
Swordfish
ELEMENT:
Water
COST:
5 :water
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
5 | 4
TEXT:
:air : Attacks opponent then move to your weapon slot
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Elite Swordfish
ELEMENT:
Water
COST:
5 :water
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
7 | 4
TEXT:
:air : Attacks opponent then move to your weapon slot

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NAME:
Swordfish
ELEMENT:
Water
COST:
5 :water
TYPE:
Permanent
ATK|HP:
5 | 4 when flying
TEXT:
Weapon: Deal 5 damages at the end of every turn.
 :air : Attacks opponent then move to a creature slot.
NAME:
Elite Swordfish
ELEMENT:
Water
COST:
5 :water
TYPE:
Permanent
ATK|HP:
7 | 4 when flying
TEXT:
Weapon: Deal 7 damages at the end of every turn.
 :air : Attacks opponent then move to a creature slot.

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Using Flying/Animate weapon would just turn it into the creature.
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Basically, it's just a creature that can become a weapon.  The creature is the standalone card, the weapon can only be made with the ability..  Due to how the game treats abilities like this (I think) turning it into a weapon and back into a creature would "refresh" it to default values, it would be cooler if buffs (and even momentum/quint/etc) stayed but I dont think it's possible.
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Re: Swordfish | Elite Swordfish https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=43687.msg1002705#msg1002705
« Reply #1 on: September 25, 2012, 08:51:22 pm »
Fun card. Amusing pun to boot :) .
Not sure I would have pegged :gravity as the element for the ability.
Life, entropy, air all spring to mind first... gravity kinda works I suppose, but I'm curious as to why it was picked.
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Re: Swordfish | Elite Swordfish https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=43687.msg1002707#msg1002707
« Reply #2 on: September 25, 2012, 09:07:19 pm »
Why just don't make the reverse process also available:
hand - moves swordfish form weapon slot to a creature slot or viceversa.
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Re: Swordfish | Elite Swordfish https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=43687.msg1002708#msg1002708
« Reply #3 on: September 25, 2012, 09:10:44 pm »
Fun card. Amusing pun to boot :) .
Not sure I would have pegged :gravity as the element for the ability.
Life, entropy, air all spring to mind first... gravity kinda works I suppose, but I'm curious as to why it was picked.

generally speaking, when i make cards with off element abilities, i try to stay away from combinations that are already in the game.  particularly difficult with water due to how many duos it has.  entropy doesnt really make sense to mee, air is already the element of flying weapon so i didn't really like it.  entropy... i didn't really consider for very long, as the effect isnt particularly chaotic.  life might make more sense for weapon -> creature, but not really the other way.  gravity seemed to be the best one to go both directions, but the more i think about it, the less sense it makes...


Why just don't make the reverse process also available:
hand - moves swordfish form weapon slot to a creature slot or viceversa.
aside from the wording, whats the difference?
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Re: Swordfish | Elite Swordfish https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=43687.msg1002712#msg1002712
« Reply #4 on: September 25, 2012, 09:39:11 pm »
I'd love if the ability could also target the enemy.

Got the scene from Dogma?

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Re: Swordfish | Elite Swordfish https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=43687.msg1002716#msg1002716
« Reply #5 on: September 25, 2012, 09:45:28 pm »
I'd love if the ability could also target the enemy.

Got the scene from Dogma?

'So what are you palnning to do? Hit me with that.... fish?'

as in, move into the opponents weapon / creature slot?  interesting... but a bit harder to theme.
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Re: Swordfish | Elite Swordfish https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=43687.msg1002720#msg1002720
« Reply #6 on: September 25, 2012, 10:10:35 pm »
Swapping creature and weapon simultaneously seems like a good  :earth  :life duo card
maybe something like:
Spoiler for Anima Enchantress:


Speaking of which, :earth would be another good element for this card's ability... unfortunately, trident already has dibs there.
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Re: Swordfish | Elite Swordfish https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=43687.msg1002743#msg1002743
« Reply #7 on: September 26, 2012, 12:03:16 am »
How funny I was thinking of this exact same card~

Quetsions:
Why would you ever want to move it into weapon slot and sacrifice your weapon slot when a better weapon is there?
What would happen if a crusader endows it, can the crusader move into my weapon slot, then another crusader endow that crusader and move into my weapon slot?

The main problem is that weapons are supposed to be more efficient than creatures at damage dealing. Why would someone want to sacrifice their weapon slot merely to give some soft CC protection to this?

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Re: Swordfish | Elite Swordfish https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=43687.msg1002752#msg1002752
« Reply #8 on: September 26, 2012, 12:27:22 am »
Is the weapon's damage increased if the swordfish has been buffed beforehand by SoP? I could see dropping other buffs, but thought perhaps an exception might be made for SoP because of its synergy with water.
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Re: Swordfish | Elite Swordfish https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=43687.msg1002754#msg1002754
« Reply #9 on: September 26, 2012, 12:41:10 am »
reminds me of the spell card i made to turn a creature into a permanent, the mechanics are different but the gist is the same.
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Re: Swordfish | Elite Swordfish https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=43687.msg1002755#msg1002755
« Reply #10 on: September 26, 2012, 12:45:23 am »
I'd love if the ability could also target the enemy.
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Re: Swordfish | Elite Swordfish https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=43687.msg1002946#msg1002946
« Reply #11 on: September 26, 2012, 06:19:19 pm »
How funny I was thinking of this exact same card~

Quetsions:
Why would you ever want to move it into weapon slot and sacrifice your weapon slot when a better weapon is there?
What would happen if a crusader endows it, can the crusader move into my weapon slot, then another crusader endow that crusader and move into my weapon slot?

The main problem is that weapons are supposed to be more efficient than creatures at damage dealing. Why would someone want to sacrifice their weapon slot merely to give some soft CC protection to this?
I can think of an interesting use for it if transforming into a weapon simultaneously animates the current weapon. Then you could use it as a roundabout AW on a stick.
E.g. with 2 of these, you could animate 1 weapon every turn.
i.e. Play weapon, transform first, end turn. Next turn transform fish back to weapon, play new weapon, transform second fish to weapon... rinse and repeat :D
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