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Elements the Game => Level 2 - Forge => Card Ideas and Art => Forge Archive => Topic started by: TuckingFypo on October 03, 2011, 01:46:05 am

Title: Stormbringer | Lower Stormbringer
Post by: TuckingFypo on October 03, 2011, 01:46:05 am

(http://imageplay.net/img/m7Gbd229670/elements_card.jpg)	(http://imageplay.net/img/m7Gbd230173/elements_card1.jpg)
NAME: Stormbringer ELEMENT: Air COST: 6  :air TYPE: Creature ATK|HP: 7 | 5 TEXT: Discharge: Each time Stormbringer takes damage, deal 1 damage to each enemy creature.	NAME: Lower Stormbringer ELEMENT: Air COST: 4  :air TYPE: Creature ATK|HP: 3 | 9 TEXT: Discharge: Each time Lower Stormbringer takes damage, deal 1 damage to each enemy creature.

ART: Art by vrt, ZBlader, or both. IDEA: TuckingFypo. NOTES: My take on a much needed mid-range attacker for unupped Air.  Elite Wyrm is already pretty cool, so the upped version is more like a utility card instead.  The current stats are a bit debatable. Discharge deals 1 damage to all enemy creatures for each source of damage, not each point of damage. Discharge is active, and may or may not work like Venom or Devourer when Adrenaline+Poison/FBuckler is considered. Discharge does not activate if frozen or delayed.  Insta-kill effects(Immolate, devour, ect) don't trigger Discharge. Erm...Discharge may or may not trigger another Discharge.  Though that would be fun to watch. Comments, suggestions, flames, firefighters, and trolls are all welcome.  8) SERIES:

Title: Re: Stormbringer | Lower Stormbringer
Post by: Zaealix on October 03, 2011, 01:58:18 am

(http://i55.tinypic.com/qx2cfs.png) Normal StormBringer.
(http://i55.tinypic.com/2cdtslg.png) Lower StormBringer.
Zaealix is my name, don't forget it!

Title: Re: Stormbringer | Lower Stormbringer
Post by: TuckingFypo on October 06, 2011, 12:13:56 am

A small bump/request for feedback.  8)

HP's of both versions increased by 1, and some art as been added.

@Zaealix:
Well, it's a good start.  8)  I'll use your work for now.  Thanks!

Title: Re: Stormbringer | Lower Stormbringer
Post by: hello12 on October 06, 2011, 12:36:33 am

I see why the attack is lowered to 3.

Title: Re: Stormbringer | Lower Stormbringer
Post by: furballdn on October 06, 2011, 01:19:36 am

I like it. The damage to quanta ratio is pretty good, and it's pretty sturdy.
unupped can take two attacks from air (snipes or shockwaves)
while upped can take up to three attacks from air (snipes)
This card would be really good if thunderstorm could target your own side of the field.

Title: Re: Stormbringer | Lower Stormbringer
Post by: ZephyrPhantom on October 06, 2011, 01:45:05 am

Seeing this card made me remember a card which had a blue phoenix as art, which made me think "Hey, that would fit pretty nicely."

Here are 4 different versions I made based on that idea - feel free to use any of them.
(http://imageplay.net/img/m7Gbd229558/Stormbird.png)(http://imageplay.net/img/m7Gbd229559/Stormbirdv2.png)(http://imageplay.net/img/m7Gbd229560/Stormbirdv3.png)(http://imageplay.net/img/m7Gbd229561/Stormbirdv4.png)

Title: Re: Stormbringer | Lower Stormbringer
Post by: TuckingFypo on October 06, 2011, 11:42:24 pm

Quote from: hello12 on October 06, 2011, 12:36:33 am

I see why the attack is lowered to 3.

Yup.  It's an excuse for a much lower casting cost to utilize the ability more easily, a higher HP, and synergy with Adrenaline, among other things.

Quote from: furballdn on October 06, 2011, 01:19:36 am

I like it. The damage to quanta ratio is pretty good, and it's pretty sturdy.
unupped can take two attacks from air (snipes or shockwaves)
while upped can take up to three attacks from air (snipes)
This card would be really good if thunderstorm could target your own side of the field.

Thanks!  It also works with other elements too, like Rage Pots.
Unupped Pandemonium will attack your creatures along with their creatures.  I'd argue that it's not too bad though, since Panda is sort of unreliable.

Quote from: Zblader on October 06, 2011, 01:45:05 am

Seeing this card made me remember a card which had a blue phoenix as art, which made me think "Hey, that would fit pretty nicely."

Here are 4 different versions I made based on that idea - feel free to use any of them.
(http://imageplay.net/img/m7Gbd229558/Stormbird.png)(http://imageplay.net/img/m7Gbd229559/Stormbirdv2.png)(http://imageplay.net/img/m7Gbd229560/Stormbirdv3.png)(http://imageplay.net/img/m7Gbd229561/Stormbirdv4.png)

Mmm, that does look nice.  I'm going to use these, thanks!  Not sure which exact one I used though.  :P

I've already submitted this for Crucible; but meanwhile, any comments or thoughts, specifically on the Discharge concept?

Title: Re: Stormbringer | Lower Stormbringer
Post by: Chapuz on October 06, 2011, 11:50:03 pm

I like it, super UG sinergy!

Title: Re: Stormbringer | Lower Stormbringer
Post by: mesaprotector on October 07, 2011, 12:09:59 am

This card looks good, maybe a little OP though.

Stormbringer+Infection=Really cool.

Title: Re: Stormbringer | Lower Stormbringer
Post by: Chapuz on October 07, 2011, 12:55:53 am

Quote from: mesaprotector on October 07, 2011, 12:09:59 am

This card looks good, maybe a little OP though.

Stormbringer+Infection=Really cool.

Stormbringer + Bloodsuckers + Archangels

Title: Re: Stormbringer | Lower Stormbringer
Post by: furballdn on October 07, 2011, 01:10:34 am

Octane would love some of these.

Title: Re: Stormbringer | Lower Stormbringer
Post by: plastiqe on October 09, 2011, 03:56:05 pm

When you say "each time Stormbringer takes damage" do you mean each point of damage as in a 4 damage shockwave gives 4 discharges and does 4 damage to each enemy creature <OR> do you mean each time it is damaged, so a Shockwave would be 1 discharge/1 damage to all creatures, and an Owl's Eye would be 1 discharge/1 damage to all creatures.

If it is the first way I suggest rewording the card "For each point of damage done to Stormbringer, deal 1 damage to each enemy creature."

Also 2 :air for a 3/9, even without an ability is really, really good.  Frogs and Graviton Guard are 5/3 and 3/5 without ability and they should be the top of the scale.  The upped version needs to be rebalanced, I'd say at least 4 or 5 :air for 3/9 or lower the stats a lot to fit 2 :air.

Title: Re: Stormbringer | Lower Stormbringer
Post by: TuckingFypo on October 09, 2011, 05:01:32 pm

I'm getting bad vibes from this working with UG, sort of (seems expensive and draw dependent, but powerful).  :'(

Quote from: plastiqe on October 09, 2011, 03:56:05 pm

When you say "each time Stormbringer takes damage" do you mean each point of damage as in a 4 damage shockwave gives 4 discharges and does 4 damage to each enemy creature <OR> do you mean each time it is damaged, so a Shockwave would be 1 discharge/1 damage to all creatures, and an Owl's Eye would be 1 discharge/1 damage to all creatures.

If it is the first way I suggest rewording the card "For each point of damage done to Stormbringer, deal 1 damage to each enemy creature."

Also 2 :air for a 3/9, even without an ability is really, really good.  Frogs and Graviton Guard are 5/3 and 3/5 without ability and they should be the top of the scale.  The upped version needs to be rebalanced, I'd say at least 4 or 5 :air for 3/9 or lower the stats a lot to fit 2 :air.

It's the latter, where any amount of damage from one source only causes 1 discharge.

I like the stats as is, so I guess a cost increase would be best. Thanks!

Title: Re: Stormbringer | Lower Stormbringer
Post by: DrunkDestroyer on October 09, 2011, 08:24:53 pm

I'm liking the internal synergy, nobody seems to have mentioned OEs yet, which is probably the first think I would think about. (Keeping it mono). UGs, not so much, although Rage Potioning the upped guys and UGs would be awesome, and probably quite strong too, yet probably balanced.

I wouldn't worry about it too much with UGs, its a duo or splash in any case, and would be unlikely to be more powerful than say, GotP Nightmare.

I agree with the infection comment, and I think two opposing stormbringers would be the coolest thing ever. If the animations were good, then basilisk blood a few times (or even auburn nymph it) and just watch the thunder flow.
Basically, cool card, I like it very much. Thunderstorm was always needing an effective Graveyard card so that it wouldn't just be a +1 card in Airs Bazaar.

Title: Re: Stormbringer | Lower Stormbringer
Post by: stereohelix on April 19, 2013, 05:41:41 pm

Alternative art:

(http://www.freeimagehosting.net/newuploads/oudi2.png) (http://www.freeimagehosting.net/newuploads/z4ig3.png)
http://www.freeimagehosting.net/newuploads/oudi2.png
http://www.freeimagehosting.net/newuploads/z4ig3.png

(http://www.freeimagehosting.net/newuploads/y6bub.jpg)
http://www.freeimagehosting.net/newuploads/y6bub.jpg

source:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/22787896@N04/2760966106/
creative commons license:
http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/2.0/deed.en

I checked the creative commons rules for Second Life as well (since this is a screenshot) and it looks legit to me.

Title: Re: Stormbringer | Lower Stormbringer
Post by: stereohelix on April 19, 2013, 06:57:20 pm

I just realized that this had been moved to the archive. Well, maybe people can use the art for something else. Anyway, I like your card idea!

Title: Re: Stormbringer | Lower Stormbringer
Post by: russianspy1234 on April 20, 2013, 02:15:04 am

i'll take it, that art is really cool. thanks.