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Title: Stone Guardian | Stone Warrior
Post by: Anarook on May 16, 2011, 02:57:17 am
(http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/nn44/Anarook/elementsccg/StoneGuardian.png)
(http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/nn44/Anarook/elementsccg/StoneWarrior.png)
NAME:
Stone Guardian
ELEMENT:
Earth
COST:
5 :earth
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
4|6
TEXT:
Resilient: Unaffected by status effects.
NAME:
Stone Warrior
ELEMENT:
Earth
COST:
7 :earth
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
8|5
TEXT:
Resilient: Unaffected by status effects.
ART:
Original art by Krava, modified by Zblader
IDEA:
Anarook
NOTES:
Part of the passives design competition.
SERIES:
(http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/nn44/Anarook/elementsccg/Knight.png)
(http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/nn44/Anarook/elementsccg/Templar.png)
NAME:
Knight
ELEMENT:
Light
COST:
5 :light
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
4|6
TEXT:
Resilient: Unaffected by status effects.
NAME:
Templar
ELEMENT:
Light
COST:
7 :light
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
9|5
TEXT:
Resilient: Unaffected by status effects.
ART:
Retrieved from wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Maximilienne-p1000557.jpg) under free redis.
IDEA:
Anarook
NOTES:
Status effects unclude freezing, delayed, poison, and others if I missed something.
I will note this makes Basilisk Blood interesting...

Passives design competition.
SERIES:
(http://imageplay.net/img/m7Gbd150039/CCCCertified2.png)
Quote from: The Communal Card Creation team
The Communal Card Creation team congratulates Stone Guardian|Stone Warrior (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,26295.0.html) on tieing for 1st place with Graviton Buckler | Graviton Aegis (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,26461.0.html) and  in the Card Design Challenge's "New Passive" competition. Pride | Pride (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,26459) received a notable 3rd place only lagging behind by 1 vote. We find these Passive abilities (Resilient, Gravitation and Pride) to be valuable if added to the game.
Title: Re: Stone Guardian | Stone Warrior (originally Knight|Templar)
Post by: coinich on May 16, 2011, 03:31:26 am
I like the mechanics and everything except the flavor.  :light already has the Crusader.  Is there an alternative element and creature idea you could use?
Title: Re: Stone Guardian | Stone Warrior (originally Knight|Templar)
Post by: Captain Scibra on May 16, 2011, 03:39:09 am
Well first though is, the massive upgrade buff... doing over 2x damage seems a little... too much, even when the cost is raised to make up for it.  perhaps make it less drastic.  The game could honestly use cards with some sort of resilience, it would make an interesting mechanic.
Title: Re: Stone Guardian | Stone Warrior (originally Knight|Templar)
Post by: Rutarete on May 16, 2011, 03:49:58 am
Make sure to add the link to the passives competition
Title: Re: Stone Guardian | Stone Warrior (originally Knight|Templar)
Post by: EmeraldTiger on May 16, 2011, 04:42:29 am
The ability would prevent quint as well, right?
Title: Re: Stone Guardian | Stone Warrior (originally Knight|Templar)
Post by: Flayne on May 16, 2011, 05:00:26 am
hehe, you took this idea from what i suggested in the passives thread right?

nice idea, but the attack buff seems to be a little strong, especially compared to archangel which costs 6 :light

Id say lower it by 1 atk, so then its more balanced in comparison to Archangel which has 7/7 , its defense being superior to Templar.

Title: Re: Stone Guardian | Stone Warrior (originally Knight|Templar)
Post by: Anarook on May 16, 2011, 11:29:15 am
hehe, you took this idea from what i suggested in the passives thread right?

nice idea, but the attack buff seems to be a little strong, especially compared to archangel which costs 6 :light

Id say lower it by 1 atk, so then its more balanced in comparison to Archangel which has 7/7 , its defense being superior to Templar.
Thought of that myself

The ability would prevent quint as well, right?
Quint is a status change, so yes.

I like the mechanics and everything except the flavor.  :light already has the Crusader.  Is there an alternative element and creature idea you could use?
It suits light, I'm not really sure where else it could go =/
Title: Re: Stone Guardian | Stone Warrior (originally Knight|Templar)
Post by: spiritkirinblade on May 16, 2011, 12:35:33 pm
Knight/Templar is way too similar to crusader, so you are probably going to have to re-do that aspect. I think the buff is a little drastic, maybe unupped you should increase the attack to 7, and upped 9 attack. Other than that, pretty nice card idea.
Title: Re: Stone Guardian | Stone Warrior (originally Knight|Templar)
Post by: RagingAlien on May 16, 2011, 04:00:37 pm
maybe it could fit in :earth, being a solid (resilient) creature?
Title: Re: Stone Guardian | Stone Warrior (originally Knight|Templar)
Post by: OldTrees on May 16, 2011, 04:22:01 pm
I like the mechanics and everything except the flavor.  :light already has the Crusader.  Is there an alternative element and creature idea you could use?
It suits light, I'm not really sure where else it could go =/
maybe it could fit in :earth, being a solid (resilient) creature?
Change the name and background to Earth and it will work well.
Title: Re: Stone Guardian | Stone Warrior (originally Knight|Templar)
Post by: EmeraldTiger on May 16, 2011, 06:01:15 pm
I could give that an Earthy look.
Title: Re: Stone Guardian | Stone Warrior (originally Knight|Templar)
Post by: OldTrees on May 16, 2011, 06:06:00 pm
I could give that an Earthy look.
With a name change it could used even less human art potentially.
Like a Golem perhaps? (wait for the OP's decision before providing art.)
Title: Re: Stone Guardian | Stone Warrior (originally Knight|Templar)
Post by: EmeraldTiger on May 16, 2011, 06:53:34 pm
Well I made something and put it in my Images thread.
Title: Re: Stone Guardian | Stone Warrior (originally Knight|Templar)
Post by: Anarook on May 16, 2011, 07:03:52 pm
Throw in a link to the art?
And I don't think it can be a golem becasue earth has golems...
Title: Re: Stone Guardian | Stone Warrior (originally Knight|Templar)
Post by: Time_lord_victorius on May 16, 2011, 07:09:15 pm
Aaaahh! templars! *Runs and parcours to the nearest building wall to skydive from*

ok serious face now. is this preventing berserk, adrenaline and butterfly effect? (even though it can't have it anyways)
Title: Re: Stone Guardian | Stone Warrior (originally Knight|Templar)
Post by: EmeraldTiger on May 16, 2011, 07:12:37 pm
http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,17991.msg358110#msg358110
Title: Re: Stone Guardian | Stone Warrior (originally Knight|Templar)
Post by: Anarook on May 16, 2011, 07:31:38 pm
Aaaahh! templars! *Runs and parcours to the nearest building wall to skydive from*

ok serious face now. is this preventing berserk, adrenaline and butterfly effect? (even though it can't have it anyways)
I don't believe those are status changes, just added effects.
Title: Re: Stone Guardian | Stone Warrior (originally Knight|Templar)
Post by: OldTrees on May 16, 2011, 07:34:47 pm
Aaaahh! templars! *Runs and parcours to the nearest building wall to skydive from*

ok serious face now. is this preventing berserk, adrenaline and butterfly effect? (even though it can't have it anyways)
I don't believe those are status changes, just added effects.
Adrenaline, Immateriality, Momentum, Delay, Freeze, Infection, Alfatoxin are the Statuses
Title: Re: Stone Guardian | Stone Warrior (originally Knight|Templar)
Post by: RagingAlien on May 16, 2011, 08:10:15 pm
Antimatter isn't?
Title: Re: Stone Guardian | Stone Warrior (originally Knight|Templar)
Post by: OldTrees on May 16, 2011, 08:38:47 pm
Antimatter isn't?
No. Antimatter falls in the category of stat changers like: Dive, Blessing, Lycanthropy, Snipe, ...
Title: Re: Stone Guardian | Stone Warrior (originally Knight|Templar)
Post by: Grifbot on May 16, 2011, 09:03:57 pm
hehe, you took this idea from what i suggested in the passives thread right?

nice idea, but the attack buff seems to be a little strong, especially compared to archangel which costs 6 :light

Id say lower it by 1 atk, so then its more balanced in comparison to Archangel which has 7/7 , its defense being superior to Templar.
Thought of that myself

The ability would prevent quint as well, right?
Quint is a status change, so yes.

I like the mechanics and everything except the flavor.  :light already has the Crusader.  Is there an alternative element and creature idea you could use?
It suits light, I'm not really sure where else it could go =/
change to  :darkness make it dark knight / dark templar?
Title: Re: Stone Guardian | Stone Warrior (originally Knight|Templar)
Post by: ZephyrPhantom on May 16, 2011, 09:13:53 pm
IMHO the protection effect seems to be one of  :earth , as others have suggested. ET's golem image would do nicely, possible name could be "Cave Golem" or "Enchanted Golem".
Title: Re: Stone Guardian | Stone Warrior (originally Knight|Templar)
Post by: Grifbot on May 16, 2011, 09:25:03 pm
IMHO?

change its ability to something like spectre: but keep the effect if the card is a "Ghost" then it cant be poisoned frozen or any of that nature
Title: Re: Stone Guardian | Stone Warrior (originally Knight|Templar)
Post by: ZephyrPhantom on May 16, 2011, 09:30:39 pm
IMHO?  = In my humble opinion

change its ability to something like spectre: but keep the effect if the card is a "Ghost" then it cant be poisoned frozen or any of that nature
A golem with a minor enchant could also be immune to weaker spells and effects.

Just my two cents, I suppose.
Title: Re: Stone Guardian | Stone Warrior (originally Knight|Templar)
Post by: Grifbot on May 16, 2011, 09:34:37 pm
thanks for the clarification  :)
 as stated by someone else there are already golems but i can see where your coming from i just thought a little diversity couldn't hurt
Title: Re: Stone Guardian | Stone Warrior (originally Knight|Templar)
Post by: EmeraldTiger on May 16, 2011, 09:39:32 pm
it is basically a golem but we can call him a Stone Soldier or Rocky.
Title: Re: Stone Guardian | Stone Warrior (originally Knight|Templar)
Post by: Anarook on May 17, 2011, 02:22:54 am
I agree entirely with the  :earth idea, it's down to a new name and fully suitable art.

What about an Earth Elemental
Behemoth
Talos (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talos)
Cyclops
Perhpas a
Gremlin
Sphinx(sounds more time-ish, but suits the resistance aspect)
Manticore
Ogre
Faerie Dragon(would also clal for a diff element)
Death Knights?
Giant?

Golems are honestly the best, but we have golems >.>
Title: Re: Stone Guardian | Stone Warrior (originally Knight|Templar)
Post by: OldTrees on May 17, 2011, 03:28:00 am
I agree entirely with the  :earth idea, it's down to a new name and fully suitable art.

What about an Earth ElementalThe players are Elementals. Creatures are not.

Golems are honestly the best, but we have golems >.>
Stone Guardian?
Title: Re: Stone Guardian | Stone Warrior (originally Knight|Templar)
Post by: coinich on May 17, 2011, 04:04:36 am
:earth just got Warden.  Why not Gravity?  It can use a solid buff, though this does prevent some quick synergies with Momentum and Acceleration.  Then you could notch the cost down a bit too.

Animated Armor | Lively Armor
Title: Re: Stone Guardian | Stone Warrior (originally Knight|Templar)
Post by: Pineapple on May 17, 2011, 06:20:33 pm
What about time? Call it Infinity, Eon/Aeon, Perpetual, or Eternal?
Title: Re: Stone Guardian | Stone Warrior (originally Knight|Templar)
Post by: ZephyrPhantom on May 17, 2011, 09:09:46 pm
:earth just got Warden.  Why not Gravity?  It can use a solid buff, though this does prevent some quick synergies with Momentum and Acceleration.  Then you could notch the cost down a bit too.

Animated Armor | Lively Armor
That also sounds Air-ish, but I like the sound of it.
On that note.... I modified an image provided by Krava (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,6660.msg165367#msg165367) for the possible :air or :gravity versions.

(http://imageplay.net/img/m7Gbd185425/AirArmor.png)(http://imageplay.net/img/m7Gbd185424/GravityArmor.png)
Title: Re: Stone Guardian | Stone Warrior (originally Knight|Templar)
Post by: Anarook on May 18, 2011, 03:40:10 am
On the note of  :earth /  :gravity
The image
(http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/nn44/Anarook/earthknightcopy.jpg)
would do quite nicely and is easily modifyable(spelled that wrong didn't I?)

Was gonna try Earthwarden for a name, but we got a warden...
What about Earthen Defender?
Title: Re: Stone Guardian | Stone Warrior (originally Knight|Templar)
Post by: EmeraldTiger on May 18, 2011, 03:47:33 am
Have you seen this by bored_ninja777 http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,11810.msg155773#msg155773
Title: Re: Stone Guardian | Stone Warrior (originally Knight|Templar)
Post by: Anarook on May 18, 2011, 03:55:27 am
Have you seen this by bored_ninja777 http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,11810.msg155773#msg155773
Yes, was debating making use of the dimensional Knight actually...
Aether could use another creature.
Title: Re: Stone Guardian | Stone Warrior (originally Knight|Templar)
Post by: EmeraldTiger on May 18, 2011, 04:17:55 am
please ask him before you do.
Title: Re: Stone Guardian | Stone Warrior (originally Knight|Templar)
Post by: Anarook on May 18, 2011, 11:25:37 am
The art belongs to Krava, not ninja.

On anohter note, what does everyone think about making this aether?
Title: Re: Stone Guardian | Stone Warrior (originally Knight|Templar)
Post by: RagingAlien on May 18, 2011, 04:25:26 pm
I'd say it is far too similar with Aether's current abilities. Earth, even after they got the Warden, could use another creature, and "Resilience" sounds very earth-ish to me. I say keep it Earth.
Title: Re: Stone Guardian | Stone Warrior (originally Knight|Templar)
Post by: OldTrees on May 18, 2011, 08:33:46 pm
I'd say it is far too similar with Aether's current abilities. Earth, even after they got the Warden, could use another creature, and "Resilience" sounds very earth-ish to me. I say keep it Earth.
Seconded
Title: Re: Stone Guardian | Stone Warrior (originally Knight|Templar)
Post by: Anarook on May 19, 2011, 01:24:38 am
I agree with earth, so im thinking either kavra's art I posted with the name Earthen Guardian, or the brown warrior Flayne posted along with the name Stone Guardian
Title: Re: Stone Guardian | Stone Warrior (originally Knight|Templar)
Post by: RagingAlien on May 19, 2011, 01:26:39 am
I prefer Flayne's, seems more like an Elements-ish image than Kavra's, in my opinion.
Title: Re: Stone Guardian | Stone Warrior (originally Knight|Templar)
Post by: Anarook on May 19, 2011, 01:29:48 am
So we go with Stone Guardian?
Title: Re: Stone Guardian | Stone Warrior (originally Knight|Templar)
Post by: RagingAlien on May 19, 2011, 01:33:43 am
maybe make up a poll? provide the link to the images, too. Having It basewd on a single person's point of view is not the best way. Calm down. :P
Title: Re: Stone Guardian | Stone Warrior (originally Knight|Templar)
Post by: EmeraldTiger on May 19, 2011, 01:43:45 am
which image by Flayne?
Title: Re: Stone Guardian | Stone Warrior (originally Knight|Templar)
Post by: RagingAlien on May 19, 2011, 01:49:56 am
Wait- I might have gotten confused there.

I'm talking about the art that Z (not Flayne) poster here.
Title: Re: Stone Guardian | Stone Warrior (originally Knight|Templar)
Post by: Anarook on May 19, 2011, 02:47:11 am
Screwed that up, meant Z, mybad >.>
been a long night  :-X
Title: Re: Stone Guardian | Stone Warrior (originally Knight|Templar)
Post by: ZephyrPhantom on May 19, 2011, 02:49:50 am
I did modify the art from one of Krava's images, so do credit him too if you use the image. ;)

Krava's rhino art is currently being used by Bored_ninja so I wouldn't recommend using it.
Title: Re: Stone Guardian | Stone Warrior (originally Knight|Templar)
Post by: Anarook on May 21, 2011, 05:59:59 am
Updated with the new card, pardon the delay.
Title: Re: Stone Guardian | Stone Warrior (originally Knight|Templar)
Post by: RagingAlien on May 21, 2011, 09:57:21 pm
Well first though is, the massive upgrade buff... doing over 2x damage seems a little... too much, even when the cost is raised to make up for it.  perhaps make it less drastic.
Title: Re: Stone Guardian | Stone Warrior (originally Knight|Templar)
Post by: QuantumT on May 21, 2011, 11:44:40 pm
The functionality of the card just feels too close to Stone Golem to me.
Title: Re: Stone Guardian | Stone Warrior (originally Knight|Templar)
Post by: OldTrees on May 27, 2011, 09:04:18 pm
(http://imageplay.net/img/m7Gbd150039/CCCCertified2.png)
Quote from: The Communal Card Creation team
The Communal Card Creation team congratulates Stone Guardian|Stone Warrior (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,26295.0.html) on tieing for 1st place with Graviton Buckler | Graviton Aegis (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,26461.0.html) and  in the Card Design Challenge's "New Passive" competition. Pride | Pride (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,26459) received a notable 3rd place only lagging behind by 1 vote. We find these Passive abilities (Resilient, Gravitation and Pride) to be valuable if added to the game.
You may want to add this quote to the opening post
Title: Re: Stone Guardian | Stone Warrior (originally Knight|Templar)
Post by: ddevans96 on May 27, 2011, 09:22:46 pm
er...I hate to rain on the parade, but did you get permission from Krava before using a modified version of his art?
Title: Re: Stone Guardian | Stone Warrior (originally Knight|Templar)
Post by: Anarook on May 27, 2011, 09:58:28 pm
I believe Zblader got permission for a modification and then allowed me to use it.
Correct me if I'm wrong and I'll get the aproval
Title: Re: Stone Guardian | Stone Warrior (originally Knight|Templar)
Post by: ZephyrPhantom on May 27, 2011, 11:08:12 pm
er...I hate to rain on the parade, but did you get permission from Krava before using a modified version of his art?
I forgot, deepest apologies.

Sent Krava a PM on art permission.
Title: Re: Stone Guardian | Stone Warrior (originally Knight|Templar)
Post by: Krava on May 28, 2011, 07:59:30 pm
Permission granted!

  ;)


Also i often check request art topic, and do some art. So if you win some contest  like this i would consider  to do some art for it.
been lazy lately though... :(
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