Stab | Strike

[Drake_XIV]

NAME: Stab ELEMENT: Darkness COST: 1 TYPE: Spell ATK|HP: TEXT: Deal 8 damage to your opponent when they draw a card.  Instinctive.	NAME: Strike ELEMENT: Darkness COST: 1 TYPE: Spell ATK|HP: TEXT: Deal 8 damage to your opponent when they draw a card.  Instinctive.

ART: http://www.sxc.hu/photo/501415 IDEA: Drake_XIV NOTES: Instinctive means that the effect will take place when it can and if it can be paid. In the case of Stab | Strike, it is limited to any situation in which your opponent draws a card, be it from the effect of a card, or the start of their turn.  When it does, Stab | Strike will be automatically played from your hand and deal the appropriate damage if you have the quanta. Stab | Strike can be cast on your turn and deal damage when your opponent draws.  Stab | Strike, as a spell card, can be reflected. SERIES:

[furballdn]

1 | 1 for instant 10 damage whenever your opponent draws (every turn)?

[Drake_XIV]

No, once only.  It is a spell, not a permanent.

[furballdn]

My wording wasn't very clear. I meant that this would activate any turn since opponent has to draw.

Why does the game need a 1 | card that deals 10 damage to the opponent? Is this not OP?

Consider UG:

5 + 1 + 1 turn + 1 card = 20 damage + 1 to all field

1 + 1 card = 10 damage

Also in before the "Opponent will carry reflect just to counter this" argument. I don't think that justifies the OP value of this.

[Drake_XIV]

Dropped the damage.

[Cheesy111]

I disagree with furball.  The difference between this and UG is card advantage - with UG, for example, you can kill an opponent.  Right now this just looks like a much, much worse version of thunderbolt.

[Drake_XIV]

Oh yeah, you can target people with Lightning...  I should probably kick it up to 7~8 to compare to GotP or something?

[furballdn]

I disagree with furball.  The difference between this and UG is card advantage - with UG, for example, you can kill an opponent.  Right now this just looks like a much, much worse version of thunderbolt.

Card advantage? Both are one card.
This can kill opponent as well as UG.
It's two thunderbolts at the opponent for cheaper cost but no longer CC, being instead direct damage (much stronger version of bolt decks)

[Cheesy111]

I disagree with furball.  The difference between this and UG is card advantage - with UG, for example, you can kill an opponent.  Right now this just looks like a much, much worse version of thunderbolt.

Card advantage? Both are one card.
This can kill opponent as well as UG.
It's two thunderbolts at the opponent for cheaper cost but no longer CC, being instead direct damage (much stronger version of bolt decks)

It's about freeing up card space in your deck.  6 of these can't kill your opponent, 6 UGs will.

[furballdn]

Not mutually exclusive. No reason I couldn't pack 6 of these (pre-nerf) into my UG deck to make only 2 UGs needed for the kill.

Now it's nerfed to being even worse than lightning! yaaay.
1 | + 1 card = 5 damage to opponent

[Cheesy111]

Not mutually exclusive. No reason I couldn't pack 6 of these (pre-nerf) into my UG deck to make only 2 UGs needed for the kill.

Now it's nerfed to being even worse than lightning! yaaay.
1 | + 1 card = 5 damage to opponent

Yes. Then you would have 8 cards needed for the kill instead of 5.  Thus, UG has card advantage over this (pre- and post-nerf).

[furballdn]

Not mutually exclusive. No reason I couldn't pack 6 of these (pre-nerf) into my UG deck to make only 2 UGs needed for the kill.

Now it's nerfed to being even worse than lightning! yaaay.
1 | + 1 card = 5 damage to opponent

Yes. Then you would have 8 cards needed for the kill instead of 5.  Thus, UG has card advantage over this (pre- and post-nerf).

Yes, you are correct. UG kill does require less cards, but I still think many players would rather pay 6 + 10 + 2 + 8 cards over 25 + 5 + 5 cards.

What I'm trying to say is that prenerf, this card's quanta advantage over UG outweighs the card disadvantage it has.