Royal Guard | Royal Guard

[moomoose]

"Ok, so not allow card with:
Freeze.
Delay.
Buff.
Debuff.
Target Creature.
Target everything.

Because them are be made before."

stop being obtuse.

you can come up with an idea related to those things, as long as they havent been done before.  your mental capacity seems to be insufficient for this concept, so do whatever you want, even if it includes walking into traffic.

[OldTrees]

I am not a Curator, however I am well aware of the details involved in this case and have the experience to relate it to many past cards.
1) Royal Guard is similar enough to Squire that they should be considered the same suggestion. Whether the shield is sacrificed or not is an insignificant difference.
2) Both authors arrived at the suggestion on their own.
3) majofa should be sited in the Idea section. I would site him (majofa) first since he (majofa) posted first.
4) Neither author has submitted the suggestion yet.
5) Since majofa posted the suggestion first he (majofa) has the right to submit his thread or to permit Daguerreo to submit this thread to showcase the suggestion.

Related:
A core mechanic is the part of a card suggestion that cannot be removed/changed without removing the suggestion. Freeze, Delay ... are all parts of larger core mechanics like Delay attackers or Freeze a creature. The topic of what is or is not a core mechanic is a part of Design Theory that I am very familiar with and you can be to.

Related:
moomoose. We should talk. PM me so I can hear your concerns (from here and other threads). Your particular manner of commenting on these concerns is found to be disrespectful and disruptive. However it is evident that you have strong feelings about these concerns and I wish to resolve both these concerns and comments.

[darkrobe]

Seems OT has spoken. Nevermind with my comment

[SpikeSpiegel]

"Ok, so not allow card with:
Freeze.
Delay.
Buff.
Debuff.
Target Creature.
Target everything.

Because them are be made before."

stop being obtuse.

you can come up with an idea related to those things, as long as they havent been done before.  your mental capacity seems to be insufficient for this concept, so do whatever you want, even if it includes walking into traffic.

Even if the idea isn't new, the card is good. Instead of posting useless criticism, it wouldn't be better to help him?

And, to be fair: when I was a newbie I've posted some card ideas just to discover after a while tons of cards with same idea/name/features...it happens! There are so many threads here that's impossible to know every single card, so it's easy to imagine that a new player can post something already posted or something similar...

PS: as Latins said, Repetita Iuvant

[Elbirn]

The cards themselves are different. They have the same core concept, but there are differences between the two.

The card curator made a ruling here, and I think that pretty much settles the matter. I really don't know why you're so up in arms about this, moose. *shrug* I do think it would be classy for the makers of both cards to have a chat about the issue. Maybe collaborate on ONE card together, crediting them both if it ever gets accepted into the game? I think that would be the classiest way to go about it if majofa has an issue with his idea being "stolen".

[Daguerreo]

Guys, may I have some opinion "in topic" please?

As Naesala suggested, upped card should be decreased to 0/15?

[moomoose]

Seems OT has spoken. Nevermind with my comment

wow, learn to think for yourself, ot is a good guy but not jesus.

Even if the idea isn't new, the card is good. Instead of posting useless criticism, it wouldn't be better to help him?

And, to be fair: when I was a newbie I've posted some card ideas just to discover after a while tons of cards with same idea/name/features...it happens! There are so many threads here that's impossible to know every single card, so it's easy to imagine that a new player can post something already posted or something similar...

PS: as Latins said, Repetita Iuvant

wasnt useless, i started out telling him it would be nice of him to drop it, the differences are insignificant.  it is not bad to post an idea which has been posted before, it is bad to continue to go forward with the idea after it has been pointed out to the poster as having been thought of before.

The cards themselves are different. They have the same core concept, but there are differences between the two.

The card curator made a ruling here, and I think that pretty much settles the matter. I really don't know why you're so up in arms about this, moose. *shrug* I do think it would be classy for the makers of both cards to have a chat about the issue. Maybe collaborate on ONE card together, crediting them both if it ever gets accepted into the game? I think that would be the classiest way to go about it if majofa has an issue with his idea being "stolen".

again, the differences were insignificant.  the core concept is the only thing that matters here.  card curators can be wrong, his comments are a good example.  i tried to be polite and informative to this poster but for whatever reason he, and now others, are suggesting to no longer respect other people as having had the idea first, simply because it wasnt 'submitted'.  if the idea had been posted in the 'steal my idea' thread, that would be one thing, but it was posted elsewhere, firmly giving them 'dibs' on the idea.  i did not claim the idea was 'stolen', but it would be wrong of him to continue further with this idea as it was not his first.

[SpikeSpiegel]

Seems OT has spoken. Nevermind with my comment

wow, learn to think for yourself, ot is a good guy but not jesus.

Even if the idea isn't new, the card is good. Instead of posting useless criticism, it wouldn't be better to help him?

And, to be fair: when I was a newbie I've posted some card ideas just to discover after a while tons of cards with same idea/name/features...it happens! There are so many threads here that's impossible to know every single card, so it's easy to imagine that a new player can post something already posted or something similar...

PS: as Latins said, Repetita Iuvant

wasnt useless, i started out telling him it would be nice of him to drop it, the differences are insignificant.  it is not bad to post an idea which has been posted before, it is bad to continue to go forward with the idea after it has been pointed out to the poster as having been thought of before.

The cards themselves are different. They have the same core concept, but there are differences between the two.

The card curator made a ruling here, and I think that pretty much settles the matter. I really don't know why you're so up in arms about this, moose. *shrug* I do think it would be classy for the makers of both cards to have a chat about the issue. Maybe collaborate on ONE card together, crediting them both if it ever gets accepted into the game? I think that would be the classiest way to go about it if majofa has an issue with his idea being "stolen".

again, the differences were insignificant.  the core concept is the only thing that matters here.  card curators can be wrong, his comments are a good example.  i tried to be polite and informative to this poster but for whatever reason he, and now others, are suggesting to no longer respect other people as having had the idea first, simply because it wasnt 'submitted'.  if the idea had been posted in the 'steal my idea' thread, that would be one thing, but it was posted elsewhere, firmly giving them 'dibs' on the idea.  i did not claim the idea was 'stolen', but it would be wrong of him to continue further with this idea as it was not his first.

Ok, understood.

PS: Moomoose, you've something like thousand card ideas similar to each other. If you wanna write in every thread that they are a sort of copycat, I suggest you to begin soon, you've a lot of work to do...

 

[OldTrees]

Ok, understood.

PS: Moomoose, you've something like thousand card ideas similar to each other. If you wanna write in every thread that they are a sort of copycat, I suggest you to begin soon, you've a lot of work to do...

 

Typically more senior members of the CIA (like moomoose, myself and you) are expected to link prior attempts when we notice copy appear. When the copy is significantly different the prior attempt is a useful reference. When the copy is not significantly different only 1 version is submitted freeing the authors to churn out a new idea.

[Daguerreo]

Meanwhile, PLEASE, can I have some comment about the card instead? :\
I'm not interested in a flame-like topic...

[darkrobe]

Oi Moomoose. I didnt post because I recognized that OT wanted civility in the conversation, and my comment was not going to be civil. I suggest you lose your superiority complex. You can be wrong as well, that is not a trait that is unique to the people who disagree with you.

How different 2 cards are is a matter of interpretation. I think the suggestion old trees made of the two card creators talking amongst themselves to determine the best result for this card idea is a good one.   

[darkrobe]

Meanwhile, PLEASE, can I have some comment about the card instead? :\
I'm not interested in a flame-like topic...

If you want us to stop arguing you should probably PM the other card creator and have him post his thoughts on this thread.