Revoke Existence | Revoke Existence

[russianspy1234]

NAME: Revoke Existence ELEMENT: Time COST: 3 TYPE: Spell ATK|HP: TEXT: Destroy target permanent.  Its controller draws a card.	NAME: Revoke Existence ELEMENT: Time COST: 2 TYPE: Spell ATK|HP: TEXT: Destroy target permanent.  Its controller draws a card.

ART: http://www.sxc.hu/photo/1215599 slightly recolored, art from discord added IDEA: russianspy1234 NOTES: if player can't draw card, the targeting fails.  I think this is possible do to how hourglass/sundial reacts if you try. SERIES:

[Rutarete]

If this was in MtG... The fun I'm imagining...
Cool card. Cost seems fine.

[regen2k9]

Perma-destruction for another element?  I'm all for it.  The only thing I'm concerned with is elemental balance, which really doesn't have to do with the card itself.  I fear that time will be OP as an element with this card, but I guess that might be a completely different discussion.

[russianspy1234]

Perma-destruction for another element?  I'm all for it.  The only thing I'm concerned with is elemental balance, which really doesn't have to do with the card itself.  I fear that time will be OP as an element with this card, but I guess that might be a completely different discussion.

it's a matter of compelteness.  theres a discussion about it somewhere in idea factory i think.  basically, every element should have at least some way of dealing with most threats, some threats more efficiently some threats less efficiently.  time already has most things covered, and is not the next element that needs perm destruction (id say life is) but the theme is just too delicious to pass up.

[furballdn]

Title seems a bit wonky.  Maybe call it something like "Faded memory" or "Non existence"?

[n00b]

I like it a lot, though I agree that the name might need to be changed. Great idea

[OdinVanguard]

How about "Unmake"

[dragonsdemesne]

I'd be all over this card if it were implemented.  I also like the idea of the card draw thing.  It makes the card inferior to explosion when used on the opponent, and actually provides a way to draw cards yourself if you really need to.  (hmm I can't win, I'll blow up my own pillar and draw a card and hope it's miracle...)  I think I might cost it one higher on both versions, though, since time doesn't feel thematically like an element that should have easy access to permanent removal.  The draw a card clause goes a long way towards balancing the cost and making it unique, but I still think +1 cost would be appropriate here.

As an alternate idea, you could go with the rewind theory of time and have something that bounced a permanent to owner's hand or deck.  I had an idea for an air card that returned a permanent to owner's hand; not sure if I ever posted it or not.

[Captain Scibra]

PC with a twist, I really like it.  If Time didn't already have a ton of drawing, I would almost think this and sundials are lol.

I'd be all over this card if it were implemented.  I also like the idea of the card draw thing.  It makes the card inferior to explosion when used on the opponent, and actually provides a way to draw cards yourself if you really need to.  (hmm I can't win, I'll blow up my own pillar and draw a card and hope it's miracle...)  I think I might cost it one higher on both versions, though, since time doesn't feel thematically like an element that should have easy access to permanent removal.  The draw a card clause goes a long way towards balancing the cost and making it unique, but I still think +1 cost would be appropriate here.

As an alternate idea, you could go with the rewind theory of time and have something that bounced a permanent to owner's hand or deck.  I had an idea for an air card that returned a permanent to owner's hand; not sure if I ever posted it or not.

Costing the same as Deflagration | Explosion is fine.  Since the drawing can be a drawback and alternatively a sacrifice, it evens out.

[russianspy1234]

How about "Unmake"

don't really like unmake as it doesn't bring to mind the card being replaced with something else because it was "never drawn" i kinda like faded memory, but i want a more "active" name, Fade Memory doesnt quite fit though.

I'd be all over this card if it were implemented.  I also like the idea of the card draw thing.  It makes the card inferior to explosion when used on the opponent, and actually provides a way to draw cards yourself if you really need to.  (hmm I can't win, I'll blow up my own pillar and draw a card and hope it's miracle...)  I think I might cost it one higher on both versions, though, since time doesn't feel thematically like an element that should have easy access to permanent removal.  The draw a card clause goes a long way towards balancing the cost and making it unique, but I still think +1 cost would be appropriate here.

As an alternate idea, you could go with the rewind theory of time and have something that bounced a permanent to owner's hand or deck.  I had an idea for an air card that returned a permanent to owner's hand; not sure if I ever posted it or not.

rewind has been done before, and simply copying it over to PC is kinda boring.  ive seen a few air cards that rewind permanents, and i think thats the element that effect belongs in.

[Heavenscall]

this card seems nice to me - a pc and small advantage of the owner, so like a soft pc - good and the time theme inside

[OdinVanguard]

What about this:
Temporal Erasure
"Return target permanent to owner's hand as a relic. Its owner draws a card."

Effectively destroy's their card and clogs their hand at the same time. But they get a new card as a consolation... unless their hand gets clogged . Makes it quite nice in a nightmare deck.
Alternately, you could make a clog-card specifically for this spell. That would open up a lot of other options.
In either case, it seems to give it more of a "time" feel for permanent destruction.