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Quiet Learner | Silent Learner https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=37096.msg465449#msg465449
« on: February 28, 2012, 11:26:16 am »
NAME:
Quiet Learner
ELEMENT:
Aether
COST:
2 :aether
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
1 | 2
TEXT:
Watchful eye: Twice per turn, if any creature activates their ability, this card alternately gains +1|0 and 0|+1.
NAME:
Silent Learner
ELEMENT:
Aether
COST:
3 :aether
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
2 | 2
TEXT:
Skilled eye: 4 times per turn, if any creature activates their ability this card alternately gains +1|0 and 0|+1.

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http://eenlikebean.deviantart.com/gallery/#/d2z5wbu by Ean Moody
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Proof: http://i.imgur.com/ydXWt.png
IDEA:
Shrink
NOTES:
Modified card to use ability four times per turn on the upped version.

So, costs less than Golem, but needs more abilities to gain attack and hit points.
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Spoiler for previous versions:
NAME:
Quiet Learner
ELEMENT:
Aether
COST:
1 :aether
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
1 | 2
TEXT:
Watchful eye: Twice per turn, if any creature activates their ability, this card alternately gains +1|0 and 0|+1.
NAME:
Silent Learner
ELEMENT:
Aether
COST:
2 :aether
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
2 | 2
TEXT:
Skilled eye: Twice per turn, if any creature activates their ability this card alternately gains +2|0 and 0|+2.
ART:
IDEA:
srm359
NOTES:
I'm still thinking this idea all of the way through.

The combo with rustler was brought up so I put a limit to the effect.

Also, the effect limit caused the card cost to drop.
SERIES:
NAME:
Quiet Learner
ELEMENT:
Aether
COST:
2 :aether
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
1 | 2
TEXT:
Watchful eye: When any creature uses their ability this card alternately gains +1|0 and 0|+1.
NAME:
Silent Learner
ELEMENT:
Aether
COST:
3 :aether
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
2 | 2
TEXT:
Skilled eye: When any creature uses their ability this card alternately gains +2|0 and 0|+2.
ART:
IDEA:
srm359
NOTES:
I will do this later.

For now, discuss.
SERIES:
« Last Edit: May 13, 2012, 09:36:25 am by Shrink »
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Re: Quiet Learner | Silent Learner https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=37096.msg465947#msg465947
« Reply #1 on: February 29, 2012, 05:24:22 pm »
Interesting. I would say the upped version should be allowed to learn more times rather than get +2 vs +1. May need a small cost increase to be balanced. I like the mechanic though. I've been working on a weapon version myself the last couple days (gains damage when an ability is used).
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Re: Quiet Learner | Silent Learner https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=37096.msg465955#msg465955
« Reply #2 on: February 29, 2012, 05:57:23 pm »
This could be a quiet, silent killer :)  (pun overload...)  Pair it with spectres or lava destroyer or some other pumpable creature, or pharaoh or firefly queen, and it will get big pretty quick.  The quanta cost is quite low as well, so you could splash it in novabow/speedbow decks, too.  I'm on the fence as to whether it would be overpowered or not, but it's probably fair, though perhaps a bit undercosted; it would need playtesting to be sure.  It also gives aether something cheap to fractal in mono, other than suicidal ball lightnings.  (well, their only other mono targets are spiders and nymphs)

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Re: Quiet Learner | Silent Learner https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=37096.msg465991#msg465991
« Reply #3 on: February 29, 2012, 07:59:49 pm »
Interesting. I would say the upped version should be allowed to learn more times rather than get +2 vs +1. May need a small cost increase to be balanced. I like the mechanic though. I've been working on a weapon version myself the last couple days (gains damage when an ability is used).
I may change it it to multiple times with the +1|0 0|+1 (Probably to three).

Also still unsure of what the cost should be for the card.

This could be a quiet, silent killer :)  (pun overload...)  Pair it with spectres or lava destroyer or some other pumpable creature, or pharaoh or firefly queen, and it will get big pretty quick.  The quanta cost is quite low as well, so you could splash it in novabow/speedbow decks, too.  I'm on the fence as to whether it would be overpowered or not, but it's probably fair, though perhaps a bit undercosted; it would need playtesting to be sure.  It also gives aether something cheap to fractal in mono, other than suicidal ball lightnings.  (well, their only other mono targets are spiders and nymphs)
As I said above, I agree that the cost is too low with this version.
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Re: Quiet Learner | Silent Learner https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=37096.msg466086#msg466086
« Reply #4 on: March 01, 2012, 12:26:02 am »
Modified to reflect suggestions.
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Re: Quiet Learner | Silent Learner https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=37096.msg466098#msg466098
« Reply #5 on: March 01, 2012, 12:56:37 am »
Yeah, I think this is quite a bit more balanced.  It's still a good card, and I'd use it in some decks for sure.  If it needed a small nerf still, you could make it so that defense was the first stat increased, instead of attack, so it went +0/+1, +1/+0 instead of +1/+0, +0/+1.  I don't think it really needs that, but it's an option.

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Re: Quiet Learner | Silent Learner https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=37096.msg466108#msg466108
« Reply #6 on: March 01, 2012, 01:13:02 am »
Yeah, I think this is quite a bit more balanced.  It's still a good card, and I'd use it in some decks for sure.  If it needed a small nerf still, you could make it so that defense was the first stat increased, instead of attack, so it went +0/+1, +1/+0 instead of +1/+0, +0/+1.  I don't think it really needs that, but it's an option.
For some reason I feel like that change might actually make the difference about this card going far or not. I will definitely keep it in mind though, thanks for the feedback and suggestions :D
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Re: Quiet Learner | Silent Learner https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=37096.msg472154#msg472154
« Reply #7 on: March 19, 2012, 01:04:14 am »
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Re: Quiet Learner | Silent Learner https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=37096.msg472188#msg472188
« Reply #8 on: March 19, 2012, 03:54:03 am »
Whoa! Cool art and mechanic! I like it!
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Re: Quiet Learner | Silent Learner https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=37096.msg472391#msg472391
« Reply #9 on: March 19, 2012, 08:33:27 pm »
Whoa! Cool art and mechanic! I like it!
Thanks ^^ I would love to see some low costing creature added to :aether other than spark X], and this was the best I could think of :)
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Re: Quiet Learner | Silent Learner https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=37096.msg472451#msg472451
« Reply #10 on: March 20, 2012, 12:39:09 am »
did you get the artists permission to use it? it is certainly copyrighted and is not listed as creative commons.

the alternating mechanic is a little bit wonky. the net effect is a limited growth based on other creatures using their abilities.  'gain +1|+1 each turn that a creature uses an ability' for the basic and 2|2 for the upped would be a cleaner mechanic with essentially the same end result, without being too powerful, basically being a vulture for aether.
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Re: Quiet Learner | Silent Learner https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=37096.msg472462#msg472462
« Reply #11 on: March 20, 2012, 01:03:47 am »
did you get the artists permission to use it? it is certainly copyrighted and is not listed as creative commons.

the alternating mechanic is a little bit wonky. the net effect is a limited growth based on other creatures using their abilities.  'gain +1|+1 each turn that a creature uses an ability' for the basic and 2|2 for the upped would be a cleaner mechanic with essentially the same end result, without being too powerful, basically being a vulture for aether.
You know for some reason I thought that because that was optional it was okay, but you're right, I looked over some stuff and I need to change it :/ too bad. And with the ability, I'm leaving it the way it is.

EDIT: Received permission to use art. *sends to crucible*
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