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Psychic Pulse | Psychic Pulse https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=51273.msg1098888#msg1098888
« on: September 24, 2013, 03:07:54 pm »
NAME:
Psychic Pulse
ELEMENT:
Aether
COST:
3 :aether
TYPE:
Spell
ATK|HP:

TEXT:
All creature skills and passives are disabled for 1 turn.
NAME:
Psychic Pulse
ELEMENT:
Aether
COST:
2 :aether
TYPE:
Spell
ATK|HP:

TEXT:
All creature skills and passives are disabled for 1 turn.

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« Last Edit: November 27, 2013, 07:12:36 pm by Elbirn »
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Re: Psychic Pulse | Psychic Pulse https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=51273.msg1098916#msg1098916
« Reply #1 on: September 24, 2013, 06:11:33 pm »
hi, first time on forum, so cut me some slack.

Love the idea, not so sure about the range of the effect, or the balancing against Silence. For cost, maybe, but the effect extends to your side of the field as well as your opponent's, correct? Couldn't you see it working just on him - kinda Silencing the field? For one more  :aether, maybe...

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Re: Psychic Pulse | Psychic Pulse https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=51273.msg1098933#msg1098933
« Reply #2 on: September 24, 2013, 07:07:08 pm »
I had thought about it only affecting the opponent, and for some reason decided against it. Looking at it now, I have no idea why. :P Maybe I was trying to make it akin to sundial? Even then, this card only affecting the opponent is a lot less terrible than sundial only affecting the opponent.

I'm also thinking the cost is actually kinda high considering what it does..Though then again this card would shut up SoFree, SoFo + Oty, Any darkness deck...

What would you think if both versions cost 2 :aether, but the upped version is only cast on the opponent?
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Re: Psychic Pulse | Psychic Pulse https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=51273.msg1098937#msg1098937
« Reply #3 on: September 24, 2013, 07:18:07 pm »
I would make it last more turns.
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Re: Psychic Pulse | Psychic Pulse https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=51273.msg1098948#msg1098948
« Reply #4 on: September 24, 2013, 09:01:45 pm »
I would make it last more turns.

ew no aether has silence and dim shield already don't need even more denial cards that last MULTIPLE turns

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Re: Psychic Pulse | Psychic Pulse https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=51273.msg1098952#msg1098952
« Reply #5 on: September 24, 2013, 09:18:12 pm »
I would make it last more turns.

ew no aether has silence and dim shield already don't need even more denial cards that last MULTIPLE turns
^And this comes to a conclusion: this card shouldn't be :aether. I would like it more as a :time card. ;)
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Re: Psychic Pulse | Psychic Pulse https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=51273.msg1098967#msg1098967
« Reply #6 on: September 24, 2013, 10:33:30 pm »
Rather than quickly moving elements, why not find another way to make it fit in :aether than shifting it to :time?

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Re: Psychic Pulse | Psychic Pulse https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=51273.msg1098968#msg1098968
« Reply #7 on: September 24, 2013, 10:43:50 pm »
@ The above

Why would this belong in :time? What's wrong with it, thematically, belonging in :aether?
Drake, what do you mean by find another way to make it fit? You meannnn changing what the card does entirely? :P
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Re: Psychic Pulse | Psychic Pulse https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=51273.msg1098969#msg1098969
« Reply #8 on: September 24, 2013, 10:58:24 pm »
Rather than quickly moving elements, why not find another way to make it fit in :aether than shifting it to :time?

Why would this belong in :time? What's wrong with it, thematically, belonging in :aether?

exactly.

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Re: Psychic Pulse | Psychic Pulse https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=51273.msg1098979#msg1098979
« Reply #9 on: September 24, 2013, 11:34:23 pm »
IMO aether has a lot of denial right now, and another element would be happy to get a mass-lobo effect even if for just one turn, but that's just IMO.
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Re: Psychic Pulse | Psychic Pulse https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=51273.msg1098998#msg1098998
« Reply #10 on: September 25, 2013, 01:28:23 am »
Does momentum count? (It can be lobotomized)

If so, do immaterial, wise, adrenaline, and gravity pull count?

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Re: Psychic Pulse | Psychic Pulse https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=51273.msg1099004#msg1099004
« Reply #11 on: September 25, 2013, 02:07:57 am »
@SkyIronSword, that's a great question.

I initially wanted to say yes. They are passive abilities, and thus should be included. However, they are also a sort of status effect. I do not know how Status effects should be treated, as their doesn't appear to be a distinction between those kinds of abilities and other passives, though they clearly differ.

Another problem is the inconsistency with the way Zanz himself treats the subject. Momentum and adrenaline can be lobo'd, but gravity pull can't? Why? Same goes for immaterial, though that makes sense as it causes an inability to target as well as protection from AoE spells. However, I feel that, as immaterial is a passive skill, if that was out of the picture, said creature would be target-able, yes?

Example, "Immortal", the creature. Has the passive "Immaterial", the cause of it's immortality-ness-stuff.

A gravity pulled creature however is not given a passive skill, just a status effect, thus it can't be cured?

TL;DR: I think this card would work against momentum, adrenaline, immaterial, and wise. But NOT gravity pull. Sorry I know my thoughts are all over, hopefully someone gets the gist of what I'm saying.

I hope someone with more knowledge on the subject has a thought to add? *Summons the idea guru*
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