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Pestilence | Pestilence https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=24526.msg312619#msg312619
« on: April 16, 2011, 02:21:41 am »


NAME:
Pestilence
ELEMENT:
Death
COST:
7 :death
TYPE:
Spell
ATK|HP:
TEXT:
Targeted monster gains 1 poison. Poison stacks each turn. Upon death Pestilence jumps to a random creature.
NAME:
Pestilence
ELEMENT:
Death
COST:
6 :death
TYPE:
Spell
ATK|HP:
TEXT:
Targeted monster gains 1 poison. Poison stacks each turn. Upon death Pestilence jumps to a random creature.
ART:
Retrieved stock free from www.sxc.hu
Virus Art (http://www.sxc.hu/photo/861269) modified by Anarook.
IDEA:
Anarook
NOTES:
Effect continues until Pestilence runs out of targets to jump to.
Does not jump to invisible creatures, but does jump to immaterial.
Cleansing removes poison counters, but if not all are removed, Pestilence jumps prematurely.
The ENTIRE stack jumps.
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Re: Pestilence | Pestilence https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=24526.msg312664#msg312664
« Reply #1 on: April 16, 2011, 03:21:38 am »
i think theres a card in armory that does the same effect.

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Re: Pestilence | Pestilence https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=24526.msg312665#msg312665
« Reply #2 on: April 16, 2011, 03:22:21 am »
I've never seen it, hrmmm.. brb

edit* ah Epidemic..that's annoying...
Least this differs a bit, only jumps to one and does increasing damage.
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Re: Pestilence | Pestilence https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=24526.msg312666#msg312666
« Reply #3 on: April 16, 2011, 03:23:51 am »
yep found it http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,6560.0.html
make sure you search cards first before posting ideas.

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Re: Pestilence | Pestilence https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=24526.msg312752#msg312752
« Reply #4 on: April 16, 2011, 06:09:07 am »
This card is basicaly a copy of the card "Outbreak" in the armory.

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Re: Pestilence | Pestilence https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=24526.msg312953#msg312953
« Reply #5 on: April 16, 2011, 03:17:41 pm »
This card is basicaly a copy of the card "Outbreak" in the armory.
uhh dude i just said that in my previous post, you dont have to repeat it, look at the link.

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Re: Pestilence | Pestilence https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=24526.msg312979#msg312979
« Reply #6 on: April 16, 2011, 04:22:13 pm »
I love how people say its a copy,
Yes, I didn't notice outbreak in the armory.
All the same outbreak is still different.
Outbreak is 1 damage that spreads to 2 on creature death.
This card is a continuously increasing posion that single jumps.
The cost is high due to its potential to stack high.
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Re: Pestilence | Pestilence https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=24526.msg313023#msg313023
« Reply #7 on: April 16, 2011, 05:54:14 pm »
I love how people say its a copy,
Yes, I didn't notice outbreak in the armory.
All the same outbreak is still different.
Outbreak is 1 damage that spreads to 2 on creature death.
This card is a continuously increasing posion that single jumps.
The cost is high due to its potential to stack high.
the mechanics of the card are still identical, regardless of damage rate.

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Re: Pestilence | Pestilence https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=24526.msg313092#msg313092
« Reply #8 on: April 16, 2011, 07:49:25 pm »
This card cannot be called as a copy of Outbreak. It has a different mechanic with one of the effects but exactly the same conceptual idea (due to art,name,theme) which is an ignored factor when an identity crisis arise.


For telling whether Pestilence is a worthy stand alone card separate from Outbreak, we will split both cards into the two effects they both have :

EffectsPestilenceOutbreak Verdict
Part 1Poisons the creature each turn.Cumulative.Infect the creature by 1 poison.Different mechanism.
Part 2Jumps to a random creature upon death.Jumps to 2 random creatures upon death.Same mechanism, only number difference.

I agree even in mechanism there is similarity but you cannot call it as identical copy of Outbreak because Pestilence has it's own different mechanism which is more original to the game than Outbreak. Infect already exists in Parasites, Plagues and Retrovirus but i never heard of cumulative poison stacking on a creature before.

In game it can be used to kill those high hp creatures faster. Although expensive and affects one creature at a time, it doesn't seem to have any effective counters. Excellent synergy with Death.


Suggestion : To remove the similarity of the second effect, change it to " Jumps to a nearby creature " which gives a dual benefit - removing similarity with Outbreak and granting some gameplay bonuses giving more control to the caster to which creatures get affected. This allows you to choose whether enemy or friendly creatures are to be killed by choosing fields. This would be a strong combo in a flooding water/death death deck where you control the opponents creatures in top and bottom row, trapping them and while they are infected inside with Pestilence. Another fun part could be that a creature in top row in your field can transfer poison to creatures in opponent's bottom row.


Overall, a well thought out card on it's own. (By trusting that you thought out the idea yourself)
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Re: Pestilence | Pestilence https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=24526.msg313283#msg313283
« Reply #9 on: April 16, 2011, 11:53:41 pm »
After reading Nik-V's post. I just relised something.  This and Voodoo doll would be a total poison killer!!

@Flayne.. Yes I know you said it but I posted befor I read all the way down. If it helps sorry for the overlap.

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Re: Pestilence | Pestilence https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=24526.msg313371#msg313371
« Reply #10 on: April 17, 2011, 02:02:33 am »
I made it random so that it could jump to either field which also limits the possible abuse of chained voodoo dolls.

Essentially this card is designed to eventually wipe the entire field, though as stated, played carefully you can cloak your monsters at the right time to force it on your opponent.

The alternative is to remove the jump effect, though personally I want to keep it, and make it a simple turn by turn stacking poison.
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Re: Pestilence | Pestilence https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=24526.msg313393#msg313393
« Reply #11 on: April 17, 2011, 02:15:35 am »
After reading Nik-V's post. I just relised something.  This and Voodoo doll would be a total poison killer!!

@Flayne.. Yes I know you said it but I posted befor I read all the way down. If it helps sorry for the overlap.
nah its ok, i was just acting like a jerk for the lulz, if u wanna repeat something go ahead, but make sure you read first, just in case theres someone that can actually get annoyed from it. and trust me, i know a lot of users here that do get annoyed by it.

 

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