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Old Hag | Old Hag https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=44773.msg1016764#msg1016764
« on: November 20, 2012, 07:13:19 pm »
NAME:
Old Hag
ELEMENT:
Darkness
COST:
4 :darkness
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
3 | 3
TEXT:
Old Hag Turns into a Nymph if targeted with Reverse Time.
Old Hag's attacks deal spell damange.
NAME:
Old Hag
ELEMENT:
Darkness
COST:
4 :darkness
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
4 | 4
TEXT:
Old Hag Turns into a Nymph if targeted with Reverse Time.
Old Hag's attacks deal spell damange.

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NOTES:
Nymph is random
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« Last Edit: November 21, 2012, 06:38:26 pm by russianspy1234 »
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Re: Old Hag | Old Hag https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=44773.msg1016782#msg1016782
« Reply #1 on: November 20, 2012, 08:53:44 pm »
I like it, I never would have thought of this idea, congrats!

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Re: Old Hag | Old Hag https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=44773.msg1016787#msg1016787
« Reply #2 on: November 20, 2012, 09:11:12 pm »
Very creative and original.
I love the artwork you chose for the card by the way.
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Re: Old Hag | Old Hag https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=44773.msg1016789#msg1016789
« Reply #3 on: November 20, 2012, 09:13:23 pm »
I absolutely love this card! I totally believe that Elements needs more opportunities for spell damage to occur and be useful to use. It also improves the usage of reverse time. Nice job!

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Re: Old Hag | Old Hag https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=44773.msg1016790#msg1016790
« Reply #4 on: November 20, 2012, 09:17:23 pm »
I like you tied the spell damage in with the possibility of a Nymph. Great work once again!
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Re: Old Hag | Old Hag https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=44773.msg1016801#msg1016801
« Reply #5 on: November 20, 2012, 09:42:42 pm »
Why is this :darkness?

The best way I'd balance this card would be to look at mummy and psion.
Psion is 4|4 (3 :underworld) + Spell damage (1 :underworld)
Mummy is 5|3 (4 :underworld) + RT resist (<1 :underworld)

A 3|3 creature costs 2 :underwold, Spell damage is +1, and RT resist is not worth enough to be considered one.

However, the random nymph can be compared to NT + QP
NT+QP = 6 :water + 2 cards
OH+RT = 4 :darkness + 1 :time + 2 cards

So I suppose it can work as a +1 :underworld.

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Re: Old Hag | Old Hag https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=44773.msg1016812#msg1016812
« Reply #6 on: November 20, 2012, 10:12:29 pm »
Why is this :darkness?

The best way I'd balance this card would be to look at mummy and psion.
Psion is 4|4 (3 :underworld) + Spell damage (1 :underworld)
Mummy is 5|3 (4 :underworld) + RT resist (<1 :underworld)

A 3|3 creature costs 2 :underwold, Spell damage is +1, and RT resist is not worth enough to be considered one.

However, the random nymph can be compared to NT + QP
NT+QP = 6 :water + 2 cards
OH+RT = 4 :darkness + 1 :time + 2 cards

So I suppose it can work as a +1 :underworld.

QP will generate quanta before turning into nymph while RT do not. So NT+QP is cheaper than it seems.
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Re: Old Hag | Old Hag https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=44773.msg1016816#msg1016816
« Reply #7 on: November 20, 2012, 10:23:01 pm »
I'm not sure how I feel about that art, but everything else about this card is absolutely perfect.

In regards to furball's cost analysis, I would suggest that because creatures dealing spell damage is part of aether's thing currently (psion and shard of wisdom) that having it cost 1 more than it probably would in aether is perfectly fine, much like how mirror/reflective shield is so much cheaper than emerald shield/jade shield, even factoring in the +1 DR.

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Re: Old Hag | Old Hag https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=44773.msg1016826#msg1016826
« Reply #8 on: November 20, 2012, 10:33:11 pm »
This is great for :darkness :time. The price is good for splashing also.
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Re: Old Hag | Old Hag https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=44773.msg1016846#msg1016846
« Reply #9 on: November 21, 2012, 12:29:04 am »
I can just follow the other's opinions. The art is really nice, the hag is scary and the way the picture looks fits to the elements image-style. No fancy conditions, simple to understand, simple to use, an ordinary creature, not overpowered, I'm impressed :)
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Re: Old Hag | Old Hag https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=44773.msg1016914#msg1016914
« Reply #10 on: November 21, 2012, 05:52:48 am »
Why is this :darkness?

The best way I'd balance this card would be to look at mummy and psion.
Psion is 4|4 (3 :underworld) + Spell damage (1 :underworld)
Mummy is 5|3 (4 :underworld) + RT resist (<1 :underworld)

A 3|3 creature costs 2 :underwold, Spell damage is +1, and RT resist is not worth enough to be considered one.

However, the random nymph can be compared to NT + QP
NT+QP = 6 :water + 2 cards
OH+RT = 4 :darkness + 1 :time + 2 cards

So I suppose it can work as a +1 :underworld.

QP will generate quanta before turning into nymph while RT do not. So NT+QP is cheaper than it seems.

NT+QP also gives you a good chance of having the quanta to use the effects, where as this turns into a random nymph so you need other quanta gen to take full advantage of it.

glad most people like the art.

Why is this :darkness?

The best way I'd balance this card would be to look at mummy and psion.
Psion is 4|4 (3 :underworld) + Spell damage (1 :underworld)
Mummy is 5|3 (4 :underworld) + RT resist (<1 :underworld)

A 3|3 creature costs 2 :underwold, Spell damage is +1, and RT resist is not worth enough to be considered one.

However, the random nymph can be compared to NT + QP
NT+QP = 6 :water + 2 cards
OH+RT = 4 :darkness + 1 :time + 2 cards

So I suppose it can work as a +1 :underworld.
Why not darkness?  Basically, I had to choose an element, and this seemed like an easy way to skin it.  I wish there was more Elements lore to work with.  I imagine nymphs to be long living, but not truly immortal.  This is a nymph ravaged by time and needing dark energy to keep itself alive.   I pictured a little grandma going "back in my day, I was quite a looker" when making this card.
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Re: Old Hag | Old Hag https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=44773.msg1045779#msg1045779
« Reply #11 on: February 25, 2013, 06:39:38 pm »
Darkness seems like a logical choice of element.
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