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Title: Leech | Blood Sipper
Post by: EmeraldTiger on August 12, 2012, 02:49:00 am
(http://i.imgur.com/SFruo.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/72Mc6.png)
NAME:
Leech
ELEMENT:
Darkness
COST:
0
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
3 | 3
TEXT:
Costs 4 health to play.
:darkness  : Leech gains Vampire till end of turn and -0|-1.
NAME:
Blood Sipper
ELEMENT:
Darkness
COST:
0
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
5 | 3
TEXT:
Costs 4 health to play.
:darkness  : Blood Sipper gains Vampire till end of turn and -0|-1.

ART:
EmeraldTiger
IDEA:
EmeraldTiger
NOTES:

SERIES:

Title: Re: Leach | Blood Sucker
Post by: Pineapple on August 12, 2012, 02:52:50 am
Leech*
Bloodsucker is taken by upgraded parasite?

Also, is that a yet-to-be-determined cost? This is the Smithy, ET...
Title: Re: Leach | Blood Sucker
Post by: ddevans96 on August 12, 2012, 02:59:34 am
Quote from: Pineapple on August 12, 2012, 02:52:50 am
Also, is that a yet-to-be-determined cost? This is the Smithy, ET...

So? Ideas are refined in the smithy anyways.
Title: Re: Leach | Blood Sucker
Post by: Pineapple on August 12, 2012, 03:06:25 am
Quote from: ddevans96 on August 12, 2012, 02:59:34 am
Quote from: Pineapple on August 12, 2012, 02:52:50 am
Also, is that a yet-to-be-determined cost? This is the Smithy, ET...

So? Ideas are refined in the smithy anyways.

Yes, refined, not created.
If ideas aren't actual cards by the Smithy, then what's the point of the Pre-Smithy?

Cards are refined for balance before they go live. Has Zanzarino ever presented a card without a determinate initial version?
Title: Re: Leach | Blood Sipper
Post by: EmeraldTiger on August 12, 2012, 03:09:09 am
fixed
Title: Re: Leach | Blood Sipper
Post by: Rutarete on August 12, 2012, 03:19:49 am
I think the upped would be better suited for 5 attack.
Title: Re: Leach | Blood Sipper
Post by: EmeraldTiger on August 12, 2012, 11:21:37 am
I realized after I shut down last night the wording for this is incorrect.
was: Leach gains Vampire and -0|-1.
current: Leach gains Vampire till end of turn and -0|-1.
Title: Re: Leach | Blood Sipper
Post by: Absol on August 12, 2012, 01:17:42 pm
Should be Leech.
Anyway, the upped version seems powerful with Fractal (total HP net = 1, no quanta aside from :aether is wasted)
Title: Re: Leach | Blood Sipper
Post by: EmeraldTiger on August 12, 2012, 04:10:59 pm
oops i forgot the :darkness activation cost.
Title: Re: Leech | Blood Sipper
Post by: OldTrees on August 13, 2012, 08:32:05 pm
I think the Element line is filled out wrong. Unless you intend for blood to be an element instead of costing hp, Leech would fall into one of the current 13 categories. (Probably  :darkness)
Title: Re: Leech | Blood Sipper
Post by: OdinVanguard on August 13, 2012, 09:01:23 pm
Quote from: OldTrees on August 13, 2012, 08:32:05 pm
I think the Element line is filled out wrong. Unless you intend for blood to be an element instead of costing hp, Leech would fall into one of the current 13 categories. (Probably  :darkness)
That would actually be a cool way to introduce a "13th" element without actually creating a new one.
An element where all costs are paid in HP instead of quanta...
Maybe call the element Blood or Sacrifice or something

For Bazar purposes, they could go under "Other"
Title: Re: Leech | Blood Sipper
Post by: OldTrees on August 13, 2012, 09:05:49 pm
Quote from: OdinVanguard on August 13, 2012, 09:01:23 pm
Quote from: OldTrees on August 13, 2012, 08:32:05 pm
I think the Element line is filled out wrong. Unless you intend for blood to be an element instead of costing hp, Leech would fall into one of the current 13 categories. (Probably  :darkness)
That would actually be a cool way to introduce a "13th" element without actually creating a new one.
An element where all costs are paid in HP instead of quanta...
Maybe call the element Blood or Sacrifice or something

For Bazar purposes, they could go under "Other"
Elements are defined by quanta. Quanta is defined by a quanta pool.
Alternate cost mechanics, Pseudoquanta and Pseudoelements are great ways to add new themes without adding new elements.

If Blood is not an element then it should not be called an element. Rather the cards would be put in one of the 13 existing categories (I think Darkness for Leech. Other cards might be in other elements or join SoSac in other.)

PS: Most "13th element" ideas are only called such due to misunderstanding the scope of what an element is. Usually the themes are not elemental themes but rather composite or subset themes. Hence why most work better as composite sets or subsets.
Title: Re: Leech | Blood Sipper
Post by: EmeraldTiger on August 13, 2012, 09:35:07 pm
like that?
Title: Re: Leech | Blood Sipper
Post by: OldTrees on August 13, 2012, 09:47:47 pm
Quote from: EmeraldTiger on August 13, 2012, 09:35:07 pm
like that?
Yes. Although I made no comment about how you showed the cost. You could go the SoSac route, the first route, the current route or a 4th route.
Title: Re: Leech | Blood Sipper
Post by: Pella on May 08, 2013, 12:38:41 pm
Since the Vampire ability lasts only one turn, shall we assume that the -0|-1 is permanent?
Title: Re: Leech | Blood Sipper
Post by: EmeraldTiger on May 08, 2013, 04:46:55 pm
Quote from: Pella on May 08, 2013, 12:38:41 pm
Since the Vampire ability lasts only one turn, shall we assume that the -0|-1 is permanent?
yes the -0|-1 is permanent.
Title: Re: Leech | Blood Sipper
Post by: EmeraldTiger on November 15, 2013, 07:58:17 pm
I'm posting in each of my CI threads in order that the new era of idea designers can see what has been done.
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