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Headcrab | Headcrab https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=59654.msg1206560#msg1206560
« on: September 21, 2015, 06:30:22 am »
NAME:
Headcrab
ELEMENT:
Life
COST:
2 :life
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
1 | 4
TEXT:
:air : Grab
Headcrab attaches to target creature, dealing 1 damage to it each round and stalling both
NAME:
Headcrab
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Life
COST:
2 :life
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
2 | 4
TEXT:
2 :chroma: Grab
Headcrab attaches to target creature, dealing 1 damage to it each round and stalling both

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NOTES:
When Headcrab is attached onto target it gains skill "0: Release" which naturally means that it releases the target.
Headcrab is attached to target until Release is used or either is killed.

If Headcrab is hurt while attached to target the target receives same damage. Poisoning Headcrab will not poison target but it will receive the damage.
If Headcrab is targeted with a spell while attached target will receive the same effect and vice versa.
Lobotomizing Headcrab will detach it but it will also lobo the target.
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« Last Edit: October 01, 2015, 05:37:24 am by Treldon »
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Re: Graboid | Graboid (looking for new name) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=59654.msg1206561#msg1206561
« Reply #1 on: September 21, 2015, 06:39:01 am »
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If Graboid is hurt while attached to target the target receives same damage

So I assume poisoning graboid wont be poisoning the other creature but does the other creature still take damage when graboid gets damaged by the infection?

In your words, it should, but it seems to me that kills the theme off a bit. I would personally go with "whenever graboid gets targeted by a spell, the attached target will receive the same effect" So if you think two creatures that are entangled to each other, this doesn't kill meta because they are one now, so they are both targeted. And yes, I also mean targeting the attached creature will also target graboid (soft-balance)

And this also makes it work with mutation, which strenghtens up the synergy between :life and :entropy . Or you can like bless/moment/CP both in the same way. CP will also give both creatures health, delaying graboids damage and when you do the combo, you can release and start attacking.

Even in rainbows, you can like TU one and you'll be TUing 2 creatures with only 6 :aether (this will probably need balancing)

It even works with Mitosis, 4 :life and 2 creatures howling with Mitosis, and with mitosising graboid, you can achieve amazing board control, probably much more than Wardens do. Mono power :life (this will also need balancing)

Also for the unupped version, :time cost seems a bit irrelevant. I would say make it :water (to also strengthen up the synergy between :life and :water) because when you think about it, one has to grow/lean/reach to attach. But I love that you also made the cost :rainbow as for the upped.

But really, I just love the idea and looking forward to have it in oetg.
« Last Edit: September 21, 2015, 06:49:22 am by Luminous »
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Re: Graboid | Graboid (looking for new name) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=59654.msg1206562#msg1206562
« Reply #2 on: September 21, 2015, 06:53:06 am »
Good points there.

"Spell targeting Graboid will hurt target and vice versa" will be added in a moment. No, posioning Graboid will not poison the target, but it will get hurt.
Lobotomizing Graboid will detach it but it will also lobo the target
TU is an interesting problem, because then the question arises whether if the two creatures come as entangled or not. Probably entangled.

:time skill cost was used for the stalling effect bt of course can be changed. :water wouldn't be my first choice, perhaps :air instead, as the Gaboid has to lanuch itself at the target - at least I imagine it as a sort of tick-crab/spider hybrid
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Re: Graboid | Graboid (looking for new name) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=59654.msg1206563#msg1206563
« Reply #3 on: September 21, 2015, 07:01:20 am »
I imagined it as a half plant half mammal hybrid.

They should come entangled, but to balance the TU you can add this in card notes : "At the use of TU on one of the creatures, there is a chance where one of the creatures may not be copied"

Btw, :air now also seems better to me than :water

And what about catapulting? Let's say oppo has a AMd titan, and you grabbed it. He then catapulted it, you took 39 damage, your grab gets catapulted too but should the damage be same? Thematically it should be (as they will both be catapulted with the same speed), plus I don't think this would be OP as only against :gravity you will have that advantage.
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Re: Graboid | Graboid (looking for new name) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=59654.msg1206565#msg1206565
« Reply #4 on: September 21, 2015, 07:18:20 am »
By tick-spider/crab hybrid I meant the form, not the domains.

For Cata I'd assume that the "weights" of the two creatures would be added together and the damage calculated accordingly

The chance for only one creature to be TU'd is interesting, but it might make the effect too complicated
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Re: Graboid | Graboid (looking for new name) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=59654.msg1206570#msg1206570
« Reply #5 on: September 21, 2015, 09:19:22 am »
Why too complicated?
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Re: Graboid | Graboid (looking for new name) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=59654.msg1206572#msg1206572
« Reply #6 on: September 21, 2015, 09:40:45 am »
Additional and niche effect that cannot be fitted onto the card itself and has to be looked up on Wiki
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Re: Graboid | Graboid (looking for new name) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=59654.msg1206616#msg1206616
« Reply #7 on: September 21, 2015, 03:29:34 pm »
If it were a water creatures, I would say go with Leech or lamprey.
...Maybe a giant Tick?
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Re: Graboid | Graboid (looking for new name) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=59654.msg1206618#msg1206618
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Re: Graboid | Graboid (looking for new name) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=59654.msg1206629#msg1206629
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If it were a water creatures, I would say go with Leech or lamprey.
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Re: Graboid | Graboid (looking for new name) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=59654.msg1206633#msg1206633
« Reply #10 on: September 21, 2015, 05:33:36 pm »
Might I suggest the name "Antlion?"
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Re: Graboid | Graboid (looking for new name) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=59654.msg1206635#msg1206635
« Reply #11 on: September 21, 2015, 05:36:39 pm »
Might I suggest the name "Antlion?"
Ya, but at that rate just make it an :earth card and replace both antlion and the old graboid with a new graboid ;)
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