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nice, but it would be following the classic rule of weapon cost power stuff. This would apply even more if you can't play a shield. I would say to make the cost only 6 for unupped, 5 for upped.Weapon cost power stuff? whuzzat? Also note its other, meaning Novas and SNovas can cast it very easily, but monos can handle it too.
Balancing time.I would definitely suggest it be higher than 2 so that it does not greatly eclipse Hammer
Comparing to Dagger and Short Bow.
Dagger: 2 (attack) + 1 (booster ability) - 3 (permanent slot) = 0
Short Bow: 3 (attack) + 1 (booster ability) - 3 (permanent) + 1 (ranged) = 2
This: 9 (attack) - either 2 or 3 (negative ability) - 3 (permanent slot) = 4 or 5, adding, say, 2 because it's in Other.
So you're saying it should be an attack of 6 and a cost of 4 other with the upgrade being 9 and a cost of 4 as well?If I interpret the equation correctly, he's saying that version will work with a cost of 3 Other, which I feel makes sense.
There was a lot of OldTreeseese in there, but I did appreciate the input. Right now I have it as 4, but thats ok. I rounded up instead.So you're saying it should be an attack of 6 and a cost of 4 other with the upgrade being 9 and a cost of 4 as well?If I interpret the equation correctly, he's saying that version will work with a cost of 3 Other, which I feel makes sense.
very nice mechanic, id like to contribute to a series of two handed weapons and/or defensive weapons and/or offensive sheilds or smething, new stuff for weapon and shield.I call dibs on double handed shields, but feel free to do double weapons if you really want.
this in particular is a bit Underpowered for the cost, maybe 8 Other? At this cost, it should stop weapon attacks too, you know since its a pole arm, makes up for the shield, titan would still penetrate.
So you're saying it should be an attack of 6 and a cost of 4 other with the upgrade being 9 and a cost of 4 as well?Yes. (I forgot to add a +1 mid way through the equation)
I'm looking at the costs now and damage output.Test it with Gavel. 78 damage is the test value for >100 with Bardiche (just remember not to spend 2 :rainbow per Gavel)
At least the average turns to wait to play this card (just as a gut feeling), would be far less now: a vast improvement.
My only additional thoughts are "Crusader has a new friend".
This would become a nice "transition" card from trying to upgrade decks from unupped to upped. an unupped Halberd with a few upped towers could go along way.
While I was typing this: I had the idea of a quick immolation deck would make this a one shot deal.
Immolate --> then play this and fly it, repeat until you're doing damage like a pro.
Thank you OldTrees, as usual I was just thinking of it in my head without writing down actual numbers (pretty awesome you have that info saved somewhere).I would not suggest making this a marked card. Mostly because I do not see the point for having them only used by that mark.
A variety of weapons always makes me happy.
Any thoughts on "adding some +1 if you have "this or that mark?"" It seems the "other" weapons has that property.
ahh, The_Mormegil.Yeah, I wasn't referring to your post. I just commented on a general "light tower / nova / crusader / bardiche / animate weapon / enjoy!" deck. It can be quite a rush...
I think its nice to see Crusader with such a massive gain in atk.
as terms of "speed" I think I meant that for immo/flying/halberd. Two separate combos.
I don't see this as breaking to "the next" rush category, but I feel it's a nice addition to the game + the game mechanic overall.
Those were two examples of "what I'd do with it".
it should cost more than 4, and it should be faster to use blessing to mass upgrade a crusader, really.Please provide evidence.
because its overpowered at 4 Other, costing less than most weapons and dealing more damage than the most powerful one, giving up the shield doesnt mean much with crusaders and animate weapon.You first comment is comparing it to the Elemental weapons. However is it abnormal for the Other Weapons? Longsword is 6 attack for :rainbow and you are worried about 9 attack for 4 :rainbow. Or do you find Longsword equally problematic? Or something else?
consider, this is stronger and faster even adding momentum than using titan with crusaders.
its just too strong at this cost, make it at least 6 Other if not 9.
it should be faster cheaper easier to use blessings and titan and such, in looking at the library of cards, this is just too powerful at this cost.
i still think it should grant some protection, you can block and keep attackers away with a polearm, its why they are on poles. probably block the opponents weapon. great card but its too cheap as it is, and it could use more sophistication.
look historically at the halberd, they are not giant axes, you dont 'swing' a halberd, you cut poke and drag it across the opponents body. you block with it and keep swords out of reach. its actually more of a defensive weapon. The power, cost and overall structure of the weapon needs reworked a bit.
i like the card, but feel it could be much better with further revision. id say cost 7-8 and stops equipped weapon attack damage other than titan.
it just seems to really devalue cards like morning star and titan by comparison.Far from it:
i still think it should give some defense of some kind. in fact i think most two handed weapons should unless they are purely offensive.I'll remember that next time I leave my Diamond Shield at home, kthxbye.
also, in terms of power, this is much closer to a greataxe than a halberd. maybe a pike.
diamond shield is weak.Unupgraded, it it is the only shield that provides 2 defense.
Nice weapon, it's unique and potentially more useful than existing 'Other' weapons. I'd make the unupgraded do 7 damage at least, since Morning Star already does 7 + is Immaterial, whereas this has a drawback.This costs less than Morning Star.
I know, I just mean I would rather see it cost more and do more so it provides a valuable role rather than just specialization. There are already weapons in 'Other' and they are cheap. Currently, I would almost always rather have a cheaper 'Other' weapon without the shield drawback than this. If it cost 6 :rainbow and did 7 or 8 damage unupgraded it would be more likely to fill a new role.I guess I would disagree and use Halberd (really should be renamed Greataxe or something) as the cheap other weapon in Immolation rush and USEM. It costs more but there is quanta to spare for its use and no room for extra weapons. Maybe a Gavel and a Greataxe for Immo rush and a Longsword and a Greataxe for USEM.
Its not going to parry weapon attacks, so stop bringing it up please. I suppose renaming Halberd to Greataxe wouldn't be too different however.I actually like Halberd as a name, just saying. 8)
Its not going to parry weapon attacks, so stop bringing it up please. I suppose renaming Halberd to Greataxe wouldn't be too different however.ok sure, dont mean to bug you.
I admit I would drastically prefer a pair of weapon names as cultured as Halberd|Bardiche but also more aggresive of a wepaon like Greataxe. I would have suggested Maul but we already have a Gavel and the image is of an axe.Its not going to parry weapon attacks, so stop bringing it up please. I suppose renaming Halberd to Greataxe wouldn't be too different however.Halberd -> to Bardiche are good names.
I'm against having the name changed to "great axe".
How about Daisho (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daisho)?No. Daisho means a pair of blades. The longer one is called a Daito usually it was a Katana.
Well, I was just thinking it should be a weapon that is incompatible with a shield, and I figured the artwork could be redone so that it fits.No offense meant, but it takes me a good bit of time to do these images. Also, if I was dual wielding, I could theorectically drop one of the weapons to pick up a shield.
do you know the reason two swords were carried?How about Daisho (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daisho)?No. Daisho means a pair of blades. The longer one is called a Daito usually it was a Katana.
Since this is one weapon, I do not think a pair of blades is an accurate name.
no, I do not know.do you know the reason two swords were carried?How about Daisho (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daisho)?No. Daisho means a pair of blades. The longer one is called a Daito usually it was a Katana.
Since this is one weapon, I do not think a pair of blades is an accurate name.
the longer sword, usually the katana was for outdoors and open spaces, the shorter wakizashi was for tight quarter or indoors, where a larger sword would get held up or be encumbered. the nodachi was even larger than a katana and was used against horses.
If I was dual wielding, I could theorectically drop one of the weapons to pick up a shield.