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Re: Halberd | Bardiche https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=25392.msg324203#msg324203
« Reply #24 on: May 01, 2011, 03:03:42 pm »
it just seems to really devalue cards like morning star and titan by comparison.
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Re: Halberd | Bardiche https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=25392.msg324269#msg324269
« Reply #25 on: May 01, 2011, 04:35:27 pm »
Quote from: lord_midnight on May 01, 2011, 03:03:42 pm
it just seems to really devalue cards like morning star and titan by comparison.
Far from it:
Morningstar starts off Immaterial.
Titan starts off with Momentum.
This card doesn't start off with either and self-destructs the moment you play a shield.
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Re: Halberd | Bardiche https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=25392.msg324280#msg324280
« Reply #26 on: May 01, 2011, 04:52:37 pm »
ok i get you, i was mistaken on the cost of the other weapons.
its a very powerful weapon, it just seems to be too good of one in a few instances.
maybe im over thinking it.

i still think it should give some defense of some kind. in fact i think most two handed weapons should unless they are purely offensive.


also, in terms of power, this is much closer to a greataxe than a halberd. maybe a pike.
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Re: Halberd | Bardiche https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=25392.msg324284#msg324284
« Reply #27 on: May 01, 2011, 04:57:52 pm »
Quote from: lord_midnight on May 01, 2011, 04:52:37 pm
i still think it should give some defense of some kind. in fact i think most two handed weapons should unless they are purely offensive.


also, in terms of power, this is much closer to a greataxe than a halberd. maybe a pike.
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Re: Halberd | Bardiche https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=25392.msg324288#msg324288
« Reply #28 on: May 01, 2011, 04:59:47 pm »
diamond shield is weak.
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Re: Halberd | Bardiche https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=25392.msg324291#msg324291
« Reply #29 on: May 01, 2011, 05:02:25 pm »
Quote from: lord_midnight on May 01, 2011, 04:59:47 pm
diamond shield is weak.
Unupgraded, it it is the only shield that provides 2 defense.
Upgraded, it is  the only shield that provides 3 defense.

My facepalm powers are tingling. If you think a card is weak please state why, and make a post in the buff thread to make it more powerful.

Also, this. 
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Re: Halberd | Bardiche https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=25392.msg324295#msg324295
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Re: Halberd | Bardiche https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=25392.msg324364#msg324364
« Reply #31 on: May 01, 2011, 06:14:33 pm »
Sorry if this has already been countered.  Other than an immo/animate/endow/something/rush, would this be used? I'd rather have a shield that  saves 10 HP per turn rather than a weapon that deals 2 or 3 more damage on average.  Elemental weapons can be used in duo's or mono's or other flying weapon decks.  I wouldn't vote for a card that would only be used in one type of deck.
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Re: Halberd | Bardiche https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=25392.msg324372#msg324372
« Reply #32 on: May 01, 2011, 06:19:49 pm »
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Re: Halberd | Bardiche https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=25392.msg324382#msg324382
« Reply #33 on: May 01, 2011, 06:32:53 pm »
Rushes don't use shields; many rushes out there will love this.  Especially immolation rushes, since they leave a lot of random quanta on the table.
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Re: Halberd | Bardiche https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=25392.msg324443#msg324443
« Reply #34 on: May 01, 2011, 07:17:10 pm »
Nice weapon, it's unique and potentially more useful than existing 'Other' weapons.  I'd make the unupgraded do 7 damage at least, since Morning Star already does 7 + is Immaterial, whereas this has a drawback.
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Re: Halberd | Bardiche https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=25392.msg324486#msg324486
« Reply #35 on: May 01, 2011, 07:53:53 pm »
Quote from: Manipul8r on May 01, 2011, 07:17:10 pm
Nice weapon, it's unique and potentially more useful than existing 'Other' weapons.  I'd make the unupgraded do 7 damage at least, since Morning Star already does 7 + is Immaterial, whereas this has a drawback.
This costs less than Morning Star.
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