Halberd | Bardiche

[coinich]

So you're saying it should be an attack of 6 and a cost of 4 other with the upgrade being 9 and a cost of 4 as well?

[ZephyrPhantom]

So you're saying it should be an attack of 6 and a cost of 4 other with the upgrade being 9 and a cost of 4 as well?

If I interpret the equation correctly, he's saying that version will work with a cost of 3 Other, which I feel makes sense.

[coinich]

So you're saying it should be an attack of 6 and a cost of 4 other with the upgrade being 9 and a cost of 4 as well?

If I interpret the equation correctly, he's saying that version will work with a cost of 3 Other, which I feel makes sense.

There was a lot of OldTreeseese in there, but I did appreciate the input.  Right now I have it as 4, but thats ok.  I rounded up instead.

very nice mechanic, id like to contribute to a series of two handed weapons and/or defensive weapons and/or offensive sheilds or smething, new stuff for weapon and shield.


this in particular is a bit Underpowered for the cost, maybe 8 Other? At this cost, it should stop weapon attacks too, you know since its a pole arm, makes up for the shield, titan would still penetrate.

I call dibs on double handed shields, but feel free to do double weapons if you really want.

[OldTrees]

So you're saying it should be an attack of 6 and a cost of 4 other with the upgrade being 9 and a cost of 4 as well?

Yes. (I forgot to add a +1 mid way through the equation)
So attack of 6 should cost 4.0 (assuming C=1), rounded that is 4 .

[OldTrees]

I'm looking at the costs now and damage output.
At least the average turns to wait to play this card (just as a gut feeling), would be far less now: a vast improvement.

My only additional thoughts are "Crusader has a new friend".

This would become a nice "transition" card from trying to upgrade decks from unupped to upped. an unupped Halberd with a few upped towers could go along way.

While I was typing this: I had the idea of a quick immolation deck would make this a one shot deal.

Immolate --> then play this and fly it, repeat until you're doing damage like a pro.

Test it with Gavel. 78 damage is the test value for >100 with Bardiche (just remember not to spend 2 per Gavel)
Or Test to 67 damage if you use a non Earth/Fire mark like with Supernova.

[OldTrees]

Thank you OldTrees, as usual I was just thinking of it in my head without writing down actual numbers (pretty awesome you have that info saved somewhere).

A variety of weapons always makes me happy.

Any thoughts on "adding some +1 if you have "this or that mark?"" It seems the "other" weapons has that property.

I would not suggest making this a marked card. Mostly because I do not see the point for having them only used by that mark.

[The_Mormegil]

Approximatively, a Crusader + Animate Halberd rush would be a little bit slower than a full blown immorush. The speed with which crusaders with 12 attack would come out is quite impressive, though. A 4 turn win is not half unlikely. You just need to play 3 Halberds / Endowed Crusaders within the first two turns and one more a bit later, and that's not unlikely with novas and upped animates / light towers.

[The_Mormegil]

ahh, The_Mormegil.

I think its nice to see Crusader with such a massive gain in atk.

as terms of "speed" I think I meant that for immo/flying/halberd. Two separate combos.

I don't see this as breaking to "the next" rush category, but I feel it's a nice addition to the game + the game mechanic overall.

Those were two examples of "what I'd do with it".

Yeah, I wasn't referring to your post. I just commented on a general "light tower / nova / crusader / bardiche / animate weapon / enjoy!" deck. It can be quite a rush...

[storyteller]

it should cost more than 4, and it should be faster to use blessing to mass upgrade a crusader, really.

[OldTrees]

it should cost more than 4, and it should be faster to use blessing to mass upgrade a crusader, really.

Please provide evidence.

[storyteller]

because its overpowered at 4 Other, costing less than most weapons and dealing more damage than the most powerful one, giving up the shield doesnt mean much with crusaders and animate weapon.

consider, this is stronger and faster even adding momentum than using titan with crusaders.

its just too strong at this cost, make it at least 6 Other if not 9.

it should be faster cheaper easier to use blessings and titan and such, in looking at the library of cards, this is just too powerful at this cost.



i still think it should grant some protection, you can block and keep attackers away with a polearm, its why they are on poles. probably block the opponents weapon. great card but its too cheap as it is, and it could use more sophistication.

look historically at the halberd, they are not giant axes, you dont 'swing' a halberd, you cut poke and drag it across the opponents body. you block with it and keep swords out of reach. its actually more of a defensive weapon. The power, cost and overall structure of the weapon needs reworked a bit.

i like the card, but feel it could be much better with further revision. id say cost 7-8 and stops equipped weapon attack damage other than titan.

[OldTrees]

because its overpowered at 4 Other, costing less than most weapons and dealing more damage than the most powerful one, giving up the shield doesnt mean much with crusaders and animate weapon.

consider, this is stronger and faster even adding momentum than using titan with crusaders.

its just too strong at this cost, make it at least 6 Other if not 9.

it should be faster cheaper easier to use blessings and titan and such, in looking at the library of cards, this is just too powerful at this cost.



i still think it should grant some protection, you can block and keep attackers away with a polearm, its why they are on poles. probably block the opponents weapon. great card but its too cheap as it is, and it could use more sophistication.

look historically at the halberd, they are not giant axes, you dont 'swing' a halberd, you cut poke and drag it across the opponents body. you block with it and keep swords out of reach. its actually more of a defensive weapon. The power, cost and overall structure of the weapon needs reworked a bit.

i like the card, but feel it could be much better with further revision. id say cost 7-8 and stops equipped weapon attack damage other than titan.

You first comment is comparing it to the Elemental weapons. However is it abnormal for the Other Weapons? Longsword is 6 attack for  and you are worried about 9 attack for 4 . Or do you find Longsword equally problematic? Or something else?

A polearm does offer protection. This card does not. Suggest a different 2 handed weapon like a Greataxe.