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Halberd | Bardiche https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=25392.msg323144#msg323144
« on: April 30, 2011, 01:18:20 am »
NAME:
Halberd
ELEMENT:
Other
COST:
4
TYPE:
Permanent
ATK|HP:
6|4
TEXT:
Weapon: Deal 6 damage at the end of every turn
You cannot equip shields
NAME:
Bardiche
ELEMENT:
Other
COST:
4
TYPE:
Permanent
ATK|HP:
9|4
TEXT:
Weapon: Deal 9 damage at the end of every turn
You cannot equip shields
ART:
Zblader
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NOTES:
Playing a shield will discard this card.  Playing this card will discard your shield.  Probably the simplest card I've made so far. :p
Flying stats would be 6|4 and 9|4 for the unupgraded and upgraded respectively.
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Re: Halberd / Bardiche https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=25392.msg323151#msg323151
« Reply #1 on: April 30, 2011, 01:28:11 am »
nice, but it would be following the classic rule of weapon cost power stuff. This would apply even more if you can't play a shield. I would say to make the cost only 6 for unupped, 5 for upped.

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Re: Halberd / Bardiche https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=25392.msg323156#msg323156
« Reply #2 on: April 30, 2011, 01:32:53 am »
nice, but it would be following the classic rule of weapon cost power stuff. This would apply even more if you can't play a shield. I would say to make the cost only 6 for unupped, 5 for upped.
Weapon cost power stuff?  whuzzat?  Also note its other, meaning Novas and SNovas can cast it very easily, but monos can handle it too.

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Re: Halberd | Bardiche https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=25392.msg323164#msg323164
« Reply #3 on: April 30, 2011, 01:50:44 am »
2 handed weapon, so no shield. Looks good.
Now, for curator preparation. (kind of)
I believe the Flying stats go in the atk/hp tab.
and in the notes, you said discard. My initial implication was that it's in the hand, when it's on the field. But then i remembered you do use discard like this.
For the card image, i think the curator will want to know who "me!" is, so you should probably put Coinich
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Re: Halberd | Bardiche https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=25392.msg323218#msg323218
« Reply #4 on: April 30, 2011, 03:20:36 am »
Weapons should try to cost the same upgraded and unpped.
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Re: Halberd | Bardiche https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=25392.msg323220#msg323220
« Reply #5 on: April 30, 2011, 03:23:33 am »
I like it!!! Also, I have a few cards I wanna post but cant due to some things, so here are the names of cards I would have posted

Ninja
Dementia
Shark
Centurion Wall
Fissure

and some others

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Re: Halberd | Bardiche https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=25392.msg323495#msg323495
« Reply #6 on: April 30, 2011, 04:34:21 pm »
Oh, card change. This + (mutation with) Endow = Ownage!
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Re: Halberd | Bardiche https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=25392.msg323506#msg323506
« Reply #7 on: April 30, 2011, 04:51:08 pm »
This should cost 10 :rainbow maximum.
It probably should cost less.
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Re: Halberd | Bardiche https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=25392.msg323586#msg323586
« Reply #8 on: April 30, 2011, 06:48:06 pm »
Upgraded says Halberd when it should be Bardiche. I agree with a slightly lower cost as well, and I really like the idea of a two-handed weapon - especially with Crusaders.


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Re: Halberd | Bardiche https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=25392.msg323592#msg323592
« Reply #9 on: April 30, 2011, 06:53:42 pm »
Balancing time.

Comparing to Dagger and Short Bow.

Dagger: 2 (attack) + 1 (booster ability) - 3 (permanent slot) = 0
Short Bow: 3 (attack) + 1 (booster ability) - 3 (permanent) + 1 (ranged) = 2

This: 9 (attack) - either 2 or 3 (negative ability) - 3 (permanent slot) = 4 or 5, adding, say, 2 because it's in Other.
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Re: Halberd | Bardiche https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=25392.msg323626#msg323626
« Reply #10 on: April 30, 2011, 07:18:37 pm »
very nice mechanic, id like to contribute to a series of two handed weapons and/or defensive weapons and/or offensive sheilds or smething, new stuff for weapon and shield.


this in particular is a bit Underpowered for the cost, maybe 8 Other? At this cost, it should stop weapon attacks too, you know since its a pole arm, makes up for the shield, titan would still penetrate.

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Re: Halberd | Bardiche https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=25392.msg323633#msg323633
« Reply #11 on: April 30, 2011, 07:25:14 pm »
Balancing time.

Comparing to Dagger and Short Bow.

Dagger: 2 (attack) + 1 (booster ability) - 3 (permanent slot) = 0
Short Bow: 3 (attack) + 1 (booster ability) - 3 (permanent) + 1 (ranged) = 2

This: 9 (attack) - either 2 or 3 (negative ability) - 3 (permanent slot) = 4 or 5, adding, say, 2 because it's in Other.
I would definitely suggest it be higher than 2 so that it does not greatly eclipse Hammer
(I would also contest Ranged counting as +1 since airborne does not and web is situational)
Short Sword: 3 (attack) -3 (Weapon) = 0 elemental = 1 other = 1 :rainbow
Hammer: 4 (attack) - 3 (Weapon) = 1 elemental = 2.5 other = 2 :rainbow
[Equation used: 1+1.5E=O]
Halberd: 9 (attack) -3 (Weapon) -C (2 handed) = 6-C elemental = 10-1.5C other = 8.5 :rainbow of C=1

Personally I think that Short Sword [3], Hammer [4] --> Halberd [9] is a huge exaggeration. Short Sword [3], Hammer [4] --> Halberd [6] would fit my experience from D&D and other RPGs much better.

Halberd [6|9] would cost
Halberd: 6 (attack) -3 (Weapon) -C (2 handed) = 3-C elemental = 5.5-1.5C other = 4 :rainbow of C=1
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