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Ghostly Flame | Ghostly Flame https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=40463.msg501219#msg501219
« on: May 20, 2012, 03:35:41 am »
NAME:
Ghostly Flame
ELEMENT:
Aether
COST:
3 :aether
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
1 | 5
TEXT:
Immortal.
:fire :This creature gains +4|+0 and loses immortality for one turn.
NAME:
Ghostly Flame
ELEMENT:
Aether
COST:
3 :aether
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
2 | 5
TEXT:
Immortal.
:fire :This creature gains +5|+0 and loses immortality for one turn.

ART:
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IDEA:
NonexistentFlower
NOTES:
Less useless when without :fire now.
SERIES:

Spoiler for OLD:
NAME:
Ghostly Flame
ELEMENT:
Aether
COST:
2 :aether
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
5 | 5
TEXT:
This creature is immortal and does not attack.
:fire : This creature attacks this turn.
NAME:
Will o' the Wisp
ELEMENT:
Aether
COST:
2 :aether
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
7 | 5
TEXT:
This creature is immortal and does not attack.
:fire : This creature attacks this turn.

ART:
sxc.hu/photo/858037
IDEA:
NonexistentFlower
NOTES:
Forcing a duo because I CAN.
SERIES:
None
Spoiler for OLDER:
NAME:
Ghostly Fire
ELEMENT:
Aether
COST:
2 :aether
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
5 | 5
TEXT:
This creature cannot be targeted or attack.
:fire :  This creature attacks this turn.
NAME:
Will o' the Wisp
ELEMENT:
Aether
COST:
2 :aether
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
5 | 5
TEXT:
This creature cannot be targeted or attack.
:aether :  This creature attacks this turn.

ART:
sxc.hu/photo/858037
IDEA:
NonexistentFlower
NOTES:
Cost may need fixing.
SERIES:

« Last Edit: May 23, 2012, 05:23:13 am by NonexistentFlower »
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Re: Ghostly Flame | Will o' the Wisp https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=40463.msg501256#msg501256
« Reply #1 on: May 20, 2012, 05:18:45 am »
An immaterial thing that does 5 damage per turn with 1 :fire each turn. Is this very balanced?
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Re: Ghostly Flame | Will o' the Wisp https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=40463.msg501258#msg501258
« Reply #2 on: May 20, 2012, 05:20:22 am »
I recommend you do credit yourself in the Idea section of the bottom table.

I like the idea of Upkeep to attack [See: Orochi, Clockwork Series], but I feel it loses it's thematic sense when upgrading.  It is no longer a wisp anymore.
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Re: Ghostly Flame | Will o' the Wisp https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=40463.msg501266#msg501266
« Reply #3 on: May 20, 2012, 06:15:46 am »
Quote from: Drake_XIV on May 20, 2012, 05:20:22 am
...feel it loses it's thematic sense...

Agreed. I'm just not sure how to retheme it though...
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Re: Ghostly Flame | Will o' the Wisp https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=40463.msg501407#msg501407
« Reply #4 on: May 20, 2012, 04:46:10 pm »
Maybe keep the :fire cost on the ability but raise it's stats?
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Re: Ghostly Flame | Will o' the Wisp https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=40463.msg501413#msg501413
« Reply #5 on: May 20, 2012, 04:57:03 pm »
i agree. there is no reason to change the color of the ability cost. just up its stats.
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Re: Ghostly Flame | Will o' the Wisp https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=40463.msg501775#msg501775
« Reply #6 on: May 21, 2012, 10:18:35 am »
So make the upgraded's ability cost 1 fire and make it 7/5?
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Re: Ghostly Flame | Will o' the Wisp https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=40463.msg501985#msg501985
« Reply #7 on: May 21, 2012, 08:46:39 pm »
an 7/6 for upgraded seems fair if you keep it fire. its duel element so its stats may even go higher. im not the best at balancing, but with a little balance this could be a really cool card.
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Re: Ghostly Flame | Will o' the Wisp https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=40463.msg502011#msg502011
« Reply #8 on: May 21, 2012, 09:24:15 pm »
I would say 7|5 upgraded, personally.
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Re: Ghostly Flame | Will o' the Wisp https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=40463.msg502127#msg502127
« Reply #9 on: May 22, 2012, 02:39:04 am »
Quote from: esran on May 21, 2012, 08:46:39 pm
an 7/6 for upgraded seems fair...

Ah, but a certain IRL friend mentions that pretty much only a few cards will affect it's HP, and it's immortal anyway, and raising it's HP to 6'd make it blockable by Gravity Shield.
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Re: Ghostly Flame | Will o' the Wisp https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=40463.msg502147#msg502147
« Reply #10 on: May 22, 2012, 03:41:54 am »
Anyway, fixed to 7 | 5. And changed a word in the name.
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Re: Ghostly Flame | Will o' the Wisp https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=40463.msg502275#msg502275
« Reply #11 on: May 22, 2012, 02:42:16 pm »
Nice idea, however I think  :light quantum fits the idea of Will-o-Wisp more than  :fire quantum, but this is just my opinion. I think this card is too cheap for what it does, I would personally increase its cost to 3 :aether or 4 :aether.
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