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Re: Gather | Collect https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26912.msg345781#msg345781
« Reply #12 on: June 04, 2011, 07:47:45 am »
Yes a Gemfinder targeted by this would then produce  :earth :earth every turn under the current mechanics although the poll is showing that the community prefers it to lobotomize which would make a Gemfinder targeted by this simply produce :earth every turn since it would remove the first :earth generation.
Under the mechanics as worded, either it would lobotomize Gemfinder's "Generate  :earth" ability and replace it with a new edition of "Generate :earth" OR it would be unable to affect Gemfinder (a creature can only have 1 lobotomizeable ability at a time). The current wording (along with the mechanics of how the game works) means that Gemfinder would not gain "Generate :earth :earth" without a specific exception to the mechanics being added to the effect.
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Re: Gather | Collect https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26912.msg345842#msg345842
« Reply #13 on: June 04, 2011, 11:48:31 am »
It shouldn't lobo if you want to keep it low-cost. Also, lobotomizing should be something kept to aether, with a few rare exceptions.
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Re: Gather | Collect https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26912.msg345867#msg345867
« Reply #14 on: June 04, 2011, 01:48:18 pm »
Under the mechanics as worded, either it would lobotomize Gemfinder's "Generate  :earth" ability and replace it with a new edition of "Generate :earth" OR it would be unable to affect Gemfinder (a creature can only have 1 lobotomizeable ability at a time). The current wording (along with the mechanics of how the game works) means that Gemfinder would not gain "Generate :earth :earth" without a specific exception to the mechanics being added to the effect.
Momentum is a lobotomizable status that is lobotomized in addition to any skills a creature may have, what if this gave a status instead of a skill that would fix it so Gemfinder could generate :earth :earth. Also since your running the contest what is your opinion of it intentionally lobotomizing does it make it more about cc or is it still focused on quanta generation?

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Re: Gather | Collect https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26912.msg345915#msg345915
« Reply #15 on: June 04, 2011, 03:36:17 pm »
Under the mechanics as worded, either it would lobotomize Gemfinder's "Generate  :earth" ability and replace it with a new edition of "Generate :earth" OR it would be unable to affect Gemfinder (a creature can only have 1 lobotomizeable ability at a time). The current wording (along with the mechanics of how the game works) means that Gemfinder would not gain "Generate :earth :earth" without a specific exception to the mechanics being added to the effect.
Momentum is a lobotomizable status that is lobotomized in addition to any skills a creature may have, what if this gave a status instead of a skill that would fix it so Gemfinder could generate :earth :earth. Also since your running the contest what is your opinion of it intentionally lobotomizing does it make it more about cc or is it still focused on quanta generation?
Making it a status would maintain the intent and permit "Generate :earth :earth"
(it is unknown if lobotomizable statuses can stack with themselves so while a momentum Generate :gravity is possible, it is unknown if a Generate :gravity :gravity will be possible.)
Making it a status allows it to have a lower casting cost than a lobo spell which would make it produce more net quanta per game.
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Re: Gather | Collect https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26912.msg345942#msg345942
« Reply #16 on: June 04, 2011, 04:55:06 pm »
Making it a status would maintain the intent and permit "Generate :earth :earth"
(it is unknown if lobotomizable statuses can stack with themselves so while a momentum Generate :gravity is possible, it is unknown if a Generate :gravity :gravity will be possible.)
Making it a status allows it to have a lower casting cost than a lobo spell which would make it produce more net quanta per game.
I wasn't intending for these to stack so unless Zanz implements a creature that already generates :gravity (buff for mercenary?) I don't think generate :gravity :gravity will be an issue.

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Re: Gather | Collect https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26912.msg382672#msg382672
« Reply #17 on: August 20, 2011, 05:17:19 pm »
I'm Reviving this thread to say it has potential, and only change I would make is have it target non-skilled creatures
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Re: Gather | Collect https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26912.msg382984#msg382984
« Reply #18 on: August 21, 2011, 04:28:43 am »
I'm Reviving this thread to say it has potential, and only change I would make is have it target non-skilled creatures
I'm glad you like this but I would rather have this either give the creature an additional passive ability or lobotomize the current ability off the creature rather than only work on non skilled creatures so it has a wider use, on slightly off-topic topic, are there more vanilla creatures or creatures with skills in the game?

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Re: Gather | Collect https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26912.msg383073#msg383073
« Reply #19 on: August 21, 2011, 01:21:34 pm »
you lobo a creature 1st then target it
all dragons except :aether unless it was a mutant
 :aether spider is a creature I would lobo for this.

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Re: Gather | Collect https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26912.msg403154#msg403154
« Reply #20 on: October 03, 2011, 03:36:51 am »
Question: If this is used on an RoL, and that is the only creature on the field, and you have Hope (unupgraded), does it have a DR of 1, or 2?
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Re: Gather | Collect https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26912.msg403155#msg403155
« Reply #21 on: October 03, 2011, 03:39:35 am »
This would be great in mono life adrenafrog rush decks.

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Re: Gather | Collect https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26912.msg510425#msg510425
« Reply #22 on: June 12, 2012, 09:18:29 am »
I do not know about how UP this card is, however the idea is truly brilliant, so I ressurect this thread in order to express my support for this card. Hope it will gets into the Forge soon enough...  ;)
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