Forgotten Soldier | Forgotten Knight

[OdinVanguard]

How about this:
"If this card dies, it becomes a Pillar of your mark.
Sacrifice to absorb all damage to you by target source.."

Kind of like having it jump in front the bullet for you. The pillar is a monument to its valor. By target source, I mean you would target a creature or permanent when you sacrifice this card and the targeted card would have any damage it deals absorbed next round.
That should be sufficiently different from gravity pull to warrant a new ability.

[ARTHANASIOS]

The passive would prevent form A (the creature) from seeing use.

Yes, but with Basilisk blood, or Blessing, or Plate Armor, or another Gravity Pull will still has a chance. Even without those, it would help into blocking a decent attacker. FS/FK with GP comes into play, deals 1 damage during your attack phase, then it blocks a creature with (let's say) 3 atk during your opponent's attack phase. So, FS/FK in one turn deals 1, absorbs 3 (as an average) and creates Pillar/Tower, pretty good for a single card which costs 1 quantum, isn't it?

Valour is too powerful in mono Light or mono Entropy.

I see your point here (however, I don't think it is so powerful in mono- , but in mono- yes, it would be). Blessings with  healing abilities could make this into a durable CC and Chaos Power could do the same. So, what about the following:

0: Valour
Forgotten Soldier/Knight attacks an enemy creature and it is attacked from it in return. Used only once. (like Lycantrope's ability)

How about this:
"If this card dies, it becomes a Pillar of your mark.
Sacrifice to absorb all damage to you by target source.."

Kind of like having it jump in front the bullet for you. The pillar is a monument to its valor. By target source, I mean you would target a creature or permanent when you sacrifice this card and the targeted card would have any damage it deals absorbed next round.
That should be sufficiently different from gravity pull to warrant a new ability.

I kinda like your idea...

[OldTrees]

How about this:
"If this card dies, it becomes a Pillar of your mark.
Sacrifice to absorb all damage to you by target source.."

Kind of like having it jump in front the bullet for you. The pillar is a monument to its valor. By target source, I mean you would target a creature or permanent when you sacrifice this card and the targeted card would have any damage it deals absorbed next round.
That should be sufficiently different from gravity pull to warrant a new ability.

That is a fair effect.
I prefer the sacrificial attack because it could kill other Forgottens 1 turn earlier or they could gang up to kill a larger foe.

The passive would prevent form A (the creature) from seeing use.

Yes, but with Basilisk blood, or Blessing, or Plate Armor, or another Gravity Pull will still has a chance. Even without those, it would help into blocking a decent attacker. FS/FK with GP comes into play, deals 1 damage during your attack phase, then it blocks a creature with (let's say) 3 atk during your opponent's attack phase. So, FS/FK in one turn deals 1, absorbs 3 (as an average) and creates Pillar/Tower, pretty good for a single card which costs 1 quantum, isn't it?

The problem is it no longer lets the player play it as a 1|1.

Your change to valour could work.

[OdinVanguard]

How about this:
"If this card dies, it becomes a Pillar of your mark.
Sacrifice to absorb all damage to you by target source.."

Kind of like having it jump in front the bullet for you. The pillar is a monument to its valor. By target source, I mean you would target a creature or permanent when you sacrifice this card and the targeted card would have any damage it deals absorbed next round.
That should be sufficiently different from gravity pull to warrant a new ability.

I like your idea. But would this absorb damage from abilities? Let's say, I use it to target an Owl's Eye. Would this prevent only its normal 5 damage, or will it also block the 3 damage from its snipe ability?

I think either would work, you would just need to explain it in the notes. The 3 damage for Owl's Eye ability wouldn't be affected though since this card is preventing damage to you not your creatures. As to something that deals damage multiple times, I guess the bigger question is: does the game consider the card itself to be a source or the damage event? I would say the latter in light of the interaction between bone shield and adrenaline, so I would say the next time the target card does damage that is considered the source that is stopped and subsequent attacks or abilities go through as normal.
Thus, its better to target the gold dragon thats about to stomp you into dust rather than the adrenalined frog trying to repeatedly gnaw off your ankles.

[OdinVanguard]

Whichever way this goes, I think this will be a very fun card to use if it gets in.

[OldTrees]

How about this:
"If this card dies, it becomes a Pillar of your mark.
Sacrifice to absorb all damage to you by target source.."

Kind of like having it jump in front the bullet for you. The pillar is a monument to its valor. By target source, I mean you would target a creature or permanent when you sacrifice this card and the targeted card would have any damage it deals absorbed next round.
That should be sufficiently different from gravity pull to warrant a new ability.

I like your idea. But would this absorb damage from abilities? Let's say, I use it to target an Owl's Eye. Would this prevent only its normal 5 damage, or will it also block the 3 damage from its snipe ability?

I think either would work, you would just need to explain it in the notes. The 3 damage for Owl's Eye ability wouldn't be affected though since this card is preventing damage to you not your creatures. As to something that deals damage multiple times, I guess the bigger question is: does the game consider the card itself to be a source or the damage event? I would say the latter in light of the interaction between bone shield and adrenaline, so I would say the next time the target card does damage that is considered the source that is stopped and subsequent attacks or abilities go through as normal.
Thus, its better to target the gold dragon thats about to stomp you into dust rather than the adrenalined frog trying to repeatedly gnaw off your ankles.

If there was a card that could snipe players then, for the turn that its damage to you is being prevented, its snipe players ability would be prevented.

PS: Adrenaline gives additional turns (thus additional attacks). Bone Shield blocks attacks.

[OdinVanguard]

PS: Adrenaline gives additional turns (thus additional attacks). Bone Shield blocks attacks.

Ah, I see. Been wondering about the background of that mechanic. Good to know.

[ARTHANASIOS]

Card stats and abilities updated. Any critism for the modifications is greatly appreciated and don't forget you can vote via the poll for any changes you like to happen.  8)

[storyteller]

I dont like Valour on this.

[ARTHANASIOS]

I dont like Valour on this.

Dear storyteller, I suppose you stay loyal to 1/1(unupped) & 2/2(upped) without any activated abilities at all (only the passive ability of Pillar/Tower creation). Is there anyone else who thinks that way and believes that 0:Valour is too much on this card?

[Guizonde]

how would the "valor" mechanic work if the soldier fragged the critter? i understand the mechanic as "soldier attacks an ennemy critter, then gets attacked". if he dies, he becomes a pillar, but what if he survives?

[ARTHANASIOS]

how would the "valor" mechanic work if the soldier fragged the critter? i understand the mechanic as "soldier attacks an ennemy critter, then gets attacked". if he dies, he becomes a pillar, but what if he survives?

The attacks become simulatiously, so if the targeted creature has more than 0 attack, it will kill the Forgotten Soldier/Knight (if the targeted enemy creature has less than 2 hp, or less than 3 hp in FK's case, it will be also slain). If the user is careless and the FS/FK survives its own Valour suicide attack, then it has to be destroyed with another way (Immolation, Devour, Unstable Gas, Owl's Eye, poisons etc.).
 This card is cheap and neutral, fitting into any deck, creating a Pillar/Tower upon death and it already has a small CC ability useable only once, in order to prevent it from being abused by buffing spells (like Blessing).A skill like Valour would be OP if useable once every turn, don't you think?