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Re: Forgotten Soldier / Forgotten Knight https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=39486.msg492643#msg492643
« Reply #48 on: May 04, 2012, 10:40:29 am »
Dear OdinVanguard, the truth is that the role of this card is mixed. It meant to be a cheap creature with low statistics (1|0, 2|0, 3|0, 1|1, 2|1, or 2|2) which can be used as a small attacker and it will also serves as a Pillar/Tower upon death. An ability which can link these two uses by helping both is welcome, that's why it possibly needs a Valour-style ability. It is good having a Otyugh to devour it in order to generate the Pillar/Tower, however as a neutral card this really needs a damaging-sacrificial ability which will make FS\FK playable in any element without using any tricks or combos.

With a sacrifice-attacking ability:
- FS/FK is 1 card combo: 1 quantum + 1|1 (or 2|2) creature + 1 Pillar/Tower + 1 turn delay (in order to be able to use his activated ability).

 Without an ability:
1}  :aether has not other way to kill him other than casting a Lightning on it. That would make FS/FK a 2 card combo:
 3 (or 2) quanta + 1|1 (or 2|2) creature + Lightning + 1 Pillar/Tower + no turn delay (the only positive thing)

2}  :air has Shockwave, Owl's/Eagle's Eye ability and Unstable Gas as ways to kill him (all of these 2 card combo). So, we have:
 3 (or 2) quanta + 1|1 (or 2|2) creature + Shockwave + 1 Pillar/Tower + no turn delay (the only positive thing)
 8 quanta + 1|1 (or 2|2) creature + Owl's Eye ability + 1 Pillar/Tower + no turn delay (but only if Owl's/Eagle's Eye is already in play)
 Unstable Gas is such a messy way that is effective only if you have multiple FS/FK on field and I am not going to analyze it.

3}  :darkness has only Drain Life or Parasite to kill him (2 card combo in both situations):
 4 (or 2) quanta + 1|1 (or 2|2) creature + Drain Life + 1 Pillar/Tower + 2 (or 1) health healing + no turn delay (1-2 healing and no turn delay the only positives here)
 
4}  :earth has not any way to kill it.

I could keep up this analysis for every element, but I think you got what I mean...
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Re: Forgotten Soldier / Forgotten Knight https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=39486.msg492685#msg492685
« Reply #49 on: May 04, 2012, 01:20:31 pm »
1) A small cost is fine.

2) Any target. (might need a name change)

3) Let it use buffs.

4) It is sacrificed. Only 1 attack.

I second this completely.

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Re: Forgotten Soldier / Forgotten Knight https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=39486.msg492701#msg492701
« Reply #50 on: May 04, 2012, 02:43:16 pm »
Ok, card updated! Now Forgotten Knight has 2|2 statistics and the activated ability changed to 0:Smite, FS/FK attacks target creature (dealing damage to that creature equal to his attack score) and he is sacrificed right after his attack.
By the way, has anyone read the poem right under the card's description?  :P
Edit:
 A small change to the poll was made. Now the last choice is "Change the cost of the activated ability to 1 quantum (instead of 0 that is right now.)".
« Last Edit: May 04, 2012, 02:45:46 pm by ARTHANASIOS »
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Re: Forgotten Soldier / Forgotten Knight https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=39486.msg492720#msg492720
« Reply #51 on: May 04, 2012, 04:09:18 pm »
I really like this card. The only thing thats a little off is that there is no description on "smite" which will be confusing for people who want to use it. Maybe you could change wording to something like:
"Becomes a pillar of your mark after death.
0 smite: Sacrifice to deal attack damage to target"

Otherwise, this is a pretty sweet card. It will get my vote when it hits crucible.
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Re: Forgotten Soldier / Forgotten Knight https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=39486.msg492757#msg492757
« Reply #52 on: May 04, 2012, 05:35:33 pm »
I really like this card. The only thing thats a little off is that there is no description on "smite" which will be confusing for people who want to use it. Maybe you could change wording to something like:
"Becomes a pillar of your mark after death.
0 smite: Sacrifice to deal attack damage to target"

Otherwise, this is a pretty sweet card. It will get my vote when it hits crucible.

Thanks for your support and your idea of the text is truly great! I had difficulties in fitting the text into the limited space of the card and your suggestion is excellent! I think I have to give special thanks to some people around here, like you or Oldtrees, since you helped me more than enough!  ;D

EDIT (May 4): I have reset the poll and now I am asking how the activated ability should be changed.
EDIT (May 9): Due to lack of interest for this poll, I will completely remove the poll and I will keep the card as it is until it gets into the Crucible section...
« Last Edit: May 09, 2012, 11:23:13 am by ARTHANASIOS »
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Re: Forgotten Soldier / Forgotten Knight https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=39486.msg501658#msg501658
« Reply #53 on: May 21, 2012, 02:53:10 am »
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Re: Forgotten Soldier / Forgotten Knight https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=39486.msg501758#msg501758
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I think I've fixed them now, thank you. Is there anything else I have to do?
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Re: Forgotten Soldier | Forgotten Knight https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=39486.msg501781#msg501781
« Reply #55 on: May 21, 2012, 10:43:57 am »
This is how u do an Other card.

Spoiler for Creature:
NAME:
Creature Name
ELEMENT:
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COST:
2
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
1 | 2
TEXT:
ability/text goes here.
NAME:
Creature Name
ELEMENT:
Other
COST:
1
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
1 | 2
TEXT:
ability/text goes here.

ART:
Artist name and/or image source goes here.
IDEA:
name(s) of anyone that contributed to idea goes here.
NOTES:
Additional idea information goes here.
SERIES:
if idea is part of a series, put title of series here.

Spoiler for Permanent:
NAME:
Permanent Name
ELEMENT:
Other
COST:
2
TYPE:
Permanent
ATK|HP:
1|2 when flying
TEXT:
ability/text goes here.
NAME:
Permanent Name
ELEMENT:
Other
COST:
2
TYPE:
Permanent
ATK|HP:
2|3 when flying
TEXT:
ability/text goes here.

ART:
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Re: Forgotten Soldier | Forgotten Knight https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=39486.msg501822#msg501822
« Reply #56 on: May 21, 2012, 01:34:19 pm »
This is how u do an Other card.

Spoiler for Creature:
NAME:
Creature Name
ELEMENT:
Other
COST:
2
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
1 | 2
TEXT:
ability/text goes here.
NAME:
Creature Name
ELEMENT:
Other
COST:
1
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
1 | 2
TEXT:
ability/text goes here.

ART:
Artist name and/or image source goes here.
IDEA:
name(s) of anyone that contributed to idea goes here.
NOTES:
Additional idea information goes here.
SERIES:
if idea is part of a series, put title of series here.

Spoiler for Permanent:
NAME:
Permanent Name
ELEMENT:
Other
COST:
2
TYPE:
Permanent
ATK|HP:
1|2 when flying
TEXT:
ability/text goes here.
NAME:
Permanent Name
ELEMENT:
Other
COST:
2
TYPE:
Permanent
ATK|HP:
2|3 when flying
TEXT:
ability/text goes here.

ART:
EmeraldTiger
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SERIES:


So, do I have to remove my poem and any other not neccesary comments in my first post?
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Re: Forgotten Soldier / Forgotten Knight https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=39486.msg501889#msg501889
« Reply #57 on: May 21, 2012, 04:44:03 pm »
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I think I've fixed them now, thank you. Is there anything else I have to do?
Element should be "Other" not "neutral"
Cost should be "1" not "1 quantum"
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Re: Forgotten Soldier | Forgotten Knight https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=39486.msg501896#msg501896
« Reply #58 on: May 21, 2012, 04:56:16 pm »
^ Oops, sorry... :-[ I think I got it this time, thank you guys.  :)
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Re: Forgotten Soldier | Forgotten Knight https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=39486.msg520660#msg520660
« Reply #59 on: July 11, 2012, 05:04:15 pm »
Amazing!  :o Forgotten Soldier|Forgotten Knight has reached Forgery!!  ;D Thank you all for your support!!!  :-*
I decied to 'celebrate' this success by adding some Lore about FS|FK under the card's board. Enjoy!  ;)
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