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Flux | Fluxor https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42986.msg535768#msg535768
« on: August 22, 2012, 11:50:25 pm »
NAME:
Flux
ELEMENT:
Entropy
COST:
6 :entropy
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
7 | 4
TEXT:
Stats fluctuate between all copies you own of this creature.
NAME:
Fluxor
ELEMENT:
Entropy
COST:
4 :entropy
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
4 | 7
TEXT:
Stats fluctuate between all copies you own of this creature.

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NOTES:
Fluctuation will not kill the creature. Minimum health is 1. Both atk and Hp shift. This ability is passive. 
Stats will move in the same range as Chaos Power. At a minimum, 1, and at maximum, 5.
Stats can still shift between upgraded and non-upgraded.
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NAME:
Flux
ELEMENT:
Entropy
COST:
6 :entropy
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
7 | 4
TEXT:
Stats fluctuate between all copies you own of this creature.
NAME:
Fluxor
ELEMENT:
Entropy
COST:
6 :entropy
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
4 | 7
TEXT:
Stats fluctuate between all copies you own of this creature.

ART:

IDEA:
Rutarete
NOTES:
Fluctuation will not kill the creature. Minimum health is 1. Both atk and Hp shift. This ability is passive. 
Stats will move in the same range as Chaos Power. At a minimum, 1, and at maximum, 5.
Stats can still shift between upgraded and non-upgraded.
SERIES:

« Last Edit: January 24, 2013, 04:57:06 am by Rutarete »
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Re: Flux | Fluxor https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42986.msg535770#msg535770
« Reply #1 on: August 22, 2012, 11:55:46 pm »
Simpler wording: Stats fluctuate between all Fluxes you possess.
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Re: Flux | Fluxor https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42986.msg535872#msg535872
« Reply #2 on: August 23, 2012, 08:28:45 am »
Just finnished googling what fluctuate means: Verb: Rise and fall irregularly in number or amount.
Just 1 questions; Why does the upgraded version have 4|7 instead of 7|4??
Why would you want to upgrade the card?? Please explain.
Nice idea though, very interesting....
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Re: Flux | Fluxor https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42986.msg535915#msg535915
« Reply #3 on: August 23, 2012, 02:18:30 pm »
Just 1 questions; Why does the upgraded version have 4|7 instead of 7|4??
Why would you want to upgrade the card?? Please explain.

I thought the exact same thing when I first looked at the card.

Also, the att/hp stats move around between fluxes, right?  So what if you allowed the hp to go to 0?  Then you could have the chance that 1 flux will die like a spark and the other ones will have some of the stats still moving around.  Of course some points will have been lost because one of the fluxes died... But it's the result of a entropic environment!

I do like the idea of the increase or decrease being limited by 5 like chaos power. And possibly make it so that the range is 0-5 instead of 1-5...?

I'd like to see this card paired with chaos power :D
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Re: Flux | Fluxor https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42986.msg535944#msg535944
« Reply #4 on: August 23, 2012, 04:01:38 pm »
Why does the upgraded version have 4|7 instead of 7|4??
The unupgraded has a higher initial attack. With the Flux passive, the attack is likely to stay higher and be more suitable as a mid-high range attacker. When upgraded, it starts off with a much more sturdy Hp, with which you can use for other buffs such as Rage Potion and Overdrive.

So, the reason for the switch is the use of the card.

@Blahs I'll think about letting the Flux reach 0 hp.
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Re: Flux | Fluxor https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42986.msg536042#msg536042
« Reply #5 on: August 24, 2012, 02:02:52 am »
Why does the upgraded version have 4|7 instead of 7|4??
The unupgraded has a higher initial attack. With the Flux passive, the attack is likely to stay higher and be more suitable as a mid-high range attacker. When upgraded, it starts off with a much more sturdy Hp, with which you can use for other buffs such as Rage Potion and Overdrive.

So, the reason for the switch is the use of the card.
I think many people would like to pay 6 :entropy for a 7|4 card. I do not think many people would like to pay 6 :entropy for an upped 4|7 card.

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Re: Flux | Fluxor https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42986.msg536045#msg536045
« Reply #6 on: August 24, 2012, 02:05:34 am »
Why does the upgraded version have 4|7 instead of 7|4??
The unupgraded has a higher initial attack. With the Flux passive, the attack is likely to stay higher and be more suitable as a mid-high range attacker. When upgraded, it starts off with a much more sturdy Hp, with which you can use for other buffs such as Rage Potion and Overdrive.

So, the reason for the switch is the use of the card.
I think many people would like to pay 6 :entropy for a 7|4 card. I do not think many people would like to pay 6 :entropy for an upped 4|7 card.
And if I switched it?
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Re: Flux | Fluxor https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42986.msg536049#msg536049
« Reply #7 on: August 24, 2012, 02:10:27 am »
6 :entropy for 4|7. Interesting ability? Nah, (from what I gather, the fluxing will average out to a net zero gain).

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Re: Flux | Fluxor https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42986.msg536052#msg536052
« Reply #8 on: August 24, 2012, 02:17:10 am »
6 :entropy for 4|7. Interesting ability? Nah, (from what I gather, the fluxing will average out to a net zero gain).
Even if you had 10 copies you think it would be a net gain of 0?
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Re: Flux | Fluxor https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42986.msg536054#msg536054
« Reply #9 on: August 24, 2012, 02:19:22 am »
The fluctuation concept is very oddly worded so I may have not gotten what you were intending to convey. Please elucidate it for me.

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Re: Flux | Fluxor https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42986.msg536055#msg536055
« Reply #10 on: August 24, 2012, 02:21:02 am »
What if the skill were made to be an active skill that could be lobotomized?
So that once you get a set of stats you like, you can lobotomize it to get it stuck with those stats.
-- Much like a steam machine.

And I do agree with Fur, if it stays how it is, there is an overall average net gain of attack of 0.  (same chances to gain and lose attack and hp)
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Re: Flux | Fluxor https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42986.msg1000919#msg1000919
« Reply #11 on: September 19, 2012, 04:37:58 am »
The fluctuation concept is very oddly worded so I may have not gotten what you were intending to convey. Please elucidate it for me.

Sorry I didn't reply sooner.

The way it goes is: Flux attacks, stats move to another Flux. Next Flux attacks, stats shift etc, etc. I see why you say there's a net gain of 0, but you just can't predict it. Lobotomizing would offer more strategy to its use, so I guess I'll change the ability to active.

If that doesn't change your opinion, what do you think about having only one stat (hp or attack) shift at a time. This way, with another choice for the code to make, there's less of a chance of evening out (at least as quickly, however many turns it might end up taking).

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