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Fallen Champion | Fallen Crusader https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=29995.msg381538#msg381538
« on: August 18, 2011, 03:28:30 am »
NAME:
Fallen Champion
ELEMENT:
Death
COST:
5 :death
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
2|3
TEXT:
:darkness :darkness : Siphon Strength
Deal 2 damage to target creature and gain +1|+1
NAME:
Fallen Crusader
ELEMENT:
Death
COST:
5 :death
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
2|3
TEXT:
:darkness : Siphon Strength
Deal 2 damage to target creature and gain +1|+1
ART:
hawanja
IDEA:
moomoose
NOTES:
it is the counterpoint to crusader, after falling to death's embrace, the twister remains of the crusader is out for his own selfish gains.

went with the simpler art for now.
SERIES:
NAME:
Fallen Champion
ELEMENT:
Death
COST:
5 :death
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
2|3
TEXT:
:darkness :darkness : Siphon Strength
Deal 2 damage to target creature and gain +1|+1
NAME:
Fallen Crusader
ELEMENT:
Death
COST:
5 :death
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
2|3
TEXT:
:darkness : Siphon Strength
Deal 2 damage to target creature and gain +1|+1
ART:
vrt originally
IDEA:
moomoose
NOTES:
sorry for molesting your art vrt, i didn't intend for it to turn out so horrible.  as soon as i find something more undead-ish i will spare your artwork the George Lucas treatment. (possible replacement art, let me know what you think: http://freakmutantmonster.blogspot.com/2009/05/ghoul.html)

on to the card itself, it is the counterpoint to crusader, after falling to death's embrace, the twister remains of the crusader is out for his own selfish gains.
SERIES:
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Re: Fallen Champion | Fallen Crusader https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=29995.msg381543#msg381543
« Reply #1 on: August 18, 2011, 03:36:44 am »
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Re: Fallen Champion | Fallen Crusader https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=29995.msg381544#msg381544
« Reply #2 on: August 18, 2011, 03:38:04 am »
"Are you ... comparing me to God? I mean, that's great, but just so you know, I've never made a tree." -House

Re: Fallen Champion | Fallen Crusader https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=29995.msg381565#msg381565
« Reply #3 on: August 18, 2011, 05:23:46 am »
It's such an obvious idea that I'm wracking my brain trying to remember if it's been done already.  Sign of a solid concept for sure, though this would totally replace Parasite...

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Re: Fallen Champion | Fallen Crusader https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=29995.msg381575#msg381575
« Reply #4 on: August 18, 2011, 07:06:43 am »
Interesting. A new Ruby dragon slayer ... It is nice but maybe to close to oty. Did you consider something like that?
:darkness :darkness : Siphon Strength
Apply -2|-1 to target creature and gain +2|+1
Obviously slower killing is less synergistic with death but here you can picture the strength living the body of the enemy (needs one more turn to slay the dragon though).

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Re: Fallen Champion | Fallen Crusader https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=29995.msg381611#msg381611
« Reply #5 on: August 18, 2011, 11:57:16 am »
i had thought of something that, but i thought it may be even *more* powerful to decrease attack and hp.  i just figured -2hp = +1 atk +1hp.  also, this isnt mutually exclusive with parasite, their elements are reversed so you could easily have a deck with both to speed up kills- also parasite is a dot so you can safely apply it once and then move on, the total damage of siphon strength is 2 and must be applied each turn.  compared to oty which makes something go away in a flash- with relative hp in mind.  this is also a duo card, an important distinction from oty- even if death and darkness is one of the stronger synergies out there.
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Re: Fallen Champion | Fallen Crusader https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=29995.msg381820#msg381820
« Reply #6 on: August 18, 2011, 08:55:05 pm »
Definitely stick with +1 to attack, no more - +2 would be too much, you'd have Growth and mini-Snipe in one card.

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Re: Fallen Champion | Fallen Crusader https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=29995.msg381831#msg381831
« Reply #7 on: August 18, 2011, 10:04:08 pm »
alternate art for consideration:
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Re: Fallen Champion | Fallen Crusader https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=29995.msg381833#msg381833
« Reply #8 on: August 18, 2011, 10:06:04 pm »
alternate art for consideration:

Some scraps of armor would probably be best.
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Re: Fallen Champion | Fallen Crusader https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=29995.msg381834#msg381834
« Reply #9 on: August 18, 2011, 10:10:15 pm »
anyone with more talent than i is free to attempt to add to it, ill see what i can do in a bit if nobody steps up.
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Re: Fallen Champion | Fallen Crusader https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=29995.msg381844#msg381844
« Reply #10 on: August 18, 2011, 10:40:00 pm »
I tried putting some Crusader armor on him. This is the result:

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Re: Fallen Champion | Fallen Crusader https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=29995.msg381910#msg381910
« Reply #11 on: August 19, 2011, 01:34:40 am »
I was about to say that this is overpowered, but it's probably about on par with Elite Otyugh, so I'll say that it's powerful but it can stand as currently shown.  It can chip away at a larger creatures health, which the otyugh cannot do, but the otyugh can kill something outright, while this guy takes longer to do it.  Plus this is a duo, while otyugh is mono, so it's harder to use.

 

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