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Re: Elixir of the Gods | Elixir of the Gods https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=44033.msg1007964#msg1007964
« Reply #12 on: October 15, 2012, 04:22:10 am »
For 1 :water + 1 card + 2 turns you get:
4 :underworld
2 extra cards

Precognition is 1 :underworld + 1 card + 0 turns for 1 extra card

2 precogs packed into one card is probably worth 2-3 :underworld. Gaining 4 extra :underworld should be around 4 :underworld I'd say. 2 turn delay means a -1 to -2 to cost.

I'm going to say a cost of 6 :water seems right.

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Re: Elixir of the Gods | Elixir of the Gods https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=44033.msg1007966#msg1007966
« Reply #13 on: October 15, 2012, 04:25:07 am »
For 1 :water + 1 card + 2 turns you get:
4 :underworld
2 extra cards

Precognition is 1 :underworld + 1 card + 0 turns for 1 extra card

2 precogs packed into one card is probably worth 2-3 :underworld. Gaining 4 extra :underworld should be around 4 :underworld I'd say. 2 turn delay means a -1 to -2 to cost.

I'm going to say a cost of 6 :water seems right.

This card is not 2 precogs.  You gain no immediate benefit when playing this card whereas you do with precog.

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Re: Elixir of the Gods | Elixir of the Gods https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=44033.msg1007969#msg1007969
« Reply #14 on: October 15, 2012, 04:29:00 am »
For 1 :water + 1 card + 2 turns you get:
4 :underworld
2 extra cards

Precognition is 1 :underworld + 1 card + 0 turns for 1 extra card

2 precogs packed into one card is probably worth 2-3 :underworld. Gaining 4 extra :underworld should be around 4 :underworld I'd say. 2 turn delay means a -1 to -2 to cost.

I'm going to say a cost of 6 :water seems right.

This card is not 2 precogs.  You gain no immediate benefit when playing this card whereas you do with precog.
I added on the cost of two turn delay later as -1. If you want to say 2 turn delay is -2, it would still be 5 :water.

Cards like this get much more benefit first turn played, with huge quanta gain and extra card draw, while it becomes more lackluster on the sixth or seventh turn.

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Re: Elixir of the Gods | Elixir of the Gods https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=44033.msg1015007#msg1015007
« Reply #15 on: November 12, 2012, 06:37:50 am »
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Re: Elixir of the Gods | Elixir of the Gods https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=44033.msg1015029#msg1015029
« Reply #16 on: November 12, 2012, 08:58:26 am »
Fixed. Don't know hwo I coudl have missed that.
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Re: Elixir of the Gods | Elixir of the Gods https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=44033.msg1015463#msg1015463
« Reply #17 on: November 14, 2012, 12:41:42 am »
I just realized how incredibly OP this would be in a 4-5 NT 6xthis rest pillars deck.  Holy snap.  Maybe furbs is right.

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Re: Elixir of the Gods | Elixir of the Gods https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=44033.msg1015465#msg1015465
« Reply #18 on: November 14, 2012, 01:21:23 am »
This is an amazing idea. To BECOME the False God (temporarily, but who cares?!). Isn't that what we all want?

I just realized how incredibly OP this would be in a 4-5 NT 6xthis rest pillars deck.  Holy snap.  Maybe furbs is right.

This card can be abused pretty easily, but there are plenty of balancing opportunities along the away. I do think that this card is a bit OP in a combo, but as a standalone I find it ok.
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Re: Elixir of the Gods | Elixir of the Gods https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=44033.msg1015466#msg1015466
« Reply #19 on: November 14, 2012, 01:24:16 am »
btw what happens if FG uses this?
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Re: Elixir of the Gods | Elixir of the Gods https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=44033.msg1015468#msg1015468
« Reply #20 on: November 14, 2012, 01:26:09 am »
btw what happens if FG uses this?
Nothing. It doesn't say 'Draw two MORE cards and generate 3 MORE quanta.'
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Re: Elixir of the Gods | Elixir of the Gods https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=44033.msg1015469#msg1015469
« Reply #21 on: November 14, 2012, 01:29:58 am »
btw what happens if FG uses this?
Nothing. It doesn't say 'Draw two MORE cards and generate 3 MORE quanta.'

Correct. This turns your base card draw into 2 per turn, and your base mark quanta production to 3. This card obviously does not stack with itself. But it does technically stack with mark cards. So you could play 3 mark cards, have a x4 mark, then play this card. Since technically your base mark is still only x1 it would totally jump to x7(but that's no different than three pillars matching yoru mark and this card)
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Re: Elixir of the Gods | Elixir of the Gods https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=44033.msg1015471#msg1015471
« Reply #22 on: November 14, 2012, 01:31:12 am »
btw what happens if FG uses this?
Nothing. It doesn't say 'Draw two MORE cards and generate 3 MORE quanta.'

Correct. This turns your base card draw into 2 per turn, and your base mark quanta production to 3. This card obviously does not stack with itself. But it does technically stack with mark cards. So you could play 3 mark cards, have a x4 mark, then play this card. Since technically your base mark is still only x1 it would totally jump to x7(but that's no different than three pillars matching yoru mark and this card)
Do you think it is good? Completely dead card for FGs and some Arena?
Maybe should tweak it a bit and say "draw 1 extra card, mark generates extra 2x".
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Re: Elixir of the Gods | Elixir of the Gods https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=44033.msg1015480#msg1015480
« Reply #23 on: November 14, 2012, 01:50:26 am »
btw what happens if FG uses this?
Nothing. It doesn't say 'Draw two MORE cards and generate 3 MORE quanta.'

Correct. This turns your base card draw into 2 per turn, and your base mark quanta production to 3. This card obviously does not stack with itself. But it does technically stack with mark cards. So you could play 3 mark cards, have a x4 mark, then play this card. Since technically your base mark is still only x1 it would totally jump to x7(but that's no different than three pillars matching yoru mark and this card)
Do you think it is good? Completely dead card for FGs and some Arena?
Maybe should tweak it a bit and say "draw 1 extra card, mark generates extra 2x".

Nothing I see really wrong with that, but drawing an extra card when you play seems like a nice addition in exchange for 1 less mark quanta generation.
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