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Desecrated Temple | Desecrated Temple https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=28299.msg361406#msg361406
« on: July 05, 2011, 11:55:17 pm »
NAME:
Desecrated Temple
ELEMENT:
Darkness
COST:
4 :darkness
TYPE:
Permanent
ATK|HP:
TEXT:
All of your opponents healing spells and effects are reduced by 30%
NAME:
Desecrated Temple
ELEMENT:
Darkness
COST:
2 :darkness
TYPE:
Permanent
ATK|HP:
TEXT:
All of your opponents healing spells and effects are reduced by 30%
ART:
elements the game
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NOTES:
This card reduces healing done for your opponent, be it by spells such as Heal or Black Hole, permanents such as Sanctuary or Shard of Gratitude, or effects such as vampire or purify.

As to weather the effect stacks or not, I dunno to be honest, would appreciate feedback before setting that variable.

Considering the huge numbers of SoGs in gold/platinum arenas, this seems like a decent way to go.

as for the math-

it stack, but the %s do not add together, but rather are sequential, 30% reduction and then 30% reduction of what is left, then 30% reduction of what is left (3 cards out) so if there was a SoG out it would be 5-1-1-1=2, if it were a buffed vampire with 20atk it would be 20 - (30% of 20) 6 - (30% of 14) 4 - (30% of 10) 3 = 7

keep in mind for the vampire the damage done is not altered.

and if you're worried about the math, dont be.  computers are great at it.  you dont need to know exactly how much healing you're going to stop because you probably cant predict exactly how much healing your opponent can have in his deck anyway.

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Re: Desecrated Temple | Desecrated Temple https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=28299.msg361409#msg361409
« Reply #1 on: July 05, 2011, 11:59:46 pm »
Just wondering, does it round up or down? (Think guardian angel)
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Re: Desecrated Temple | Desecrated Temple https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=28299.msg361411#msg361411
« Reply #2 on: July 06, 2011, 12:01:03 am »
rounds down, ie 7 healing gets reduced to 4.  i think that's fair.
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Re: Desecrated Temple | Desecrated Temple https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=28299.msg361413#msg361413
« Reply #3 on: July 06, 2011, 12:14:26 am »
Its fair, but why a Sanctuary?  I get the duality aspect, but what about a fortress keeps the opponent from healing himself?

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Re: Desecrated Temple | Desecrated Temple https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=28299.msg361420#msg361420
« Reply #4 on: July 06, 2011, 12:27:24 am »
Think of it more as a focus point for a lot of negative energy that the caster is sending to the opponent.  It's stretching a little, and some other name would be better, but I could see it.

It also needs a cap.  Say "All of your opponents healing spells and effects are reduced by half or by 20, whichever is lesser."  And no, no stacking...though for what it does, I really think it's a bit on the cheap side for cost.

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Re: Desecrated Temple | Desecrated Temple https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=28299.msg361422#msg361422
« Reply #5 on: July 06, 2011, 12:33:21 am »
no cap plox, but no stacking.

Though stacking could be real interesting if it didn't cut out a half...

Re: Desecrated Temple | Desecrated Temple https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=28299.msg361424#msg361424
« Reply #6 on: July 06, 2011, 12:36:08 am »
Thats an awesome idea! Although I dont know how I will feel about this considering I am (attempting) to run a  :light :darkness deck. Although the only problem with  :light :darkness is that both elements cards are bloody expenisve.

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Re: Desecrated Temple | Desecrated Temple https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=28299.msg361429#msg361429
« Reply #7 on: July 06, 2011, 12:43:48 am »
putting a cap on it would kinda defeat the purpose of it.  alternate to 50% to make stacking effective could be -1 healing each.  This would be weak with just 1 in play, but strong with 3-6.

and why a desecrated temple (sanctuary)? because the hallowed ground has been tainted, making healing powers less effective.
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Re: Desecrated Temple | Desecrated Temple https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=28299.msg361430#msg361430
« Reply #8 on: July 06, 2011, 12:45:42 am »
mmmkay.  Makes some sense.  Howsabout lowering the percentages for stacking?  You'd get diminishing returns anyways.

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Re: Desecrated Temple | Desecrated Temple https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=28299.msg361438#msg361438
« Reply #9 on: July 06, 2011, 12:55:50 am »
two ways to look at it, have it be ~30% instead of 50% and allow stacking, but the %s not adding together, but rather being sequential, 30% reduction and then 30% reduction of what is left, then 30% reduction of what is left (3 cards out) so if there was a SoG out it would be 5-1-1-1=2, if it were a buffed vampire with 20atk it would be 20 - (30% of 20) 6 - (30% of 14) 4 - (30% of 10) 3 = 7

or
have the % be lower but stack directly, like 20% per stack.  the SoG with 3 out would be 5-3=2, the buffed vampire would be 20-12=8

keep in mind for the vampire the damage done is not altered.
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Re: Desecrated Temple | Desecrated Temple https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=28299.msg361453#msg361453
« Reply #10 on: July 06, 2011, 01:21:58 am »
If you missed my chat reply, I prefer the first option myself.

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Re: Desecrated Temple | Desecrated Temple https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=28299.msg361510#msg361510
« Reply #11 on: July 06, 2011, 03:36:02 am »
<--- does not like anything that has to do much with rounding but...

Interesting idea!! I expect no less than that from a member of the Idea Factory. '
Seems like this is a win condition for vamps vs. vamps.

P.S. I think you meant "whether" instead of "weather".
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