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Re: Dancing Blade | Dancing Blade https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34250.msg432605#msg432605
« Reply #12 on: November 30, 2011, 02:14:49 am »
Well, in either case, a question would be "does momentum bypass this"? Its functioning as a defensive weapon, but momentum technically bypasses "shield effects" which wouldn't apply to this.


Also, for Riposte damage, does this get dealt to the offending attacker, or always to the elemental that owns the attacking weapon/creature? Put simply, if this Riposte triggers on a Frog, does the Frog die?
good points, honestly i hadnt thought of the first question, and i guess technically even something with momentum could be deflected by this- it isnt so much as stopping the attack as it is redirecting it out of the way, and as you said- this is a weapon, not a shield.  the second i had thought of, but couldnt really make a decision on.  either it is a CC (attacks creature) or a atk buff (additive damage), both of which i think are pretty neat, so either way works for me.

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just as a balancing mechanism, really.  while making the card i had tried out making both either 3 or 5, but it just didnt feel right, i decided that a split in the number isnt such a big deal.
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Re: Dancing Blade | Dancing Blade https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34250.msg432608#msg432608
« Reply #13 on: November 30, 2011, 02:20:17 am »
Well, in either case, a question would be "does momentum bypass this"? Its functioning as a defensive weapon, but momentum technically bypasses "shield effects" which wouldn't apply to this.


Also, for Riposte damage, does this get dealt to the offending attacker, or always to the elemental that owns the attacking weapon/creature? Put simply, if this Riposte triggers on a Frog, does the Frog die?
good points, honestly i hadnt thought of the first question, and i guess technically even something with momentum could be deflected by this- it isnt so much as stopping the attack as it is redirecting it out of the way, and as you said- this is a weapon, not a shield.
Still, thematically, Momentum makes creatures Unstoppable* (see upgraded card). This card would then be stopping an unstoppable creature... I think it shouldn't block them.
*I know it still says momentum in the card, but the whole idea is that momentum'd creatures are unstoppable. This would be able to kill a momentum'd quint'd creature, for example, and I think that shouldn't happen.

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Re: Dancing Blade | Dancing Blade https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34250.msg432619#msg432619
« Reply #14 on: November 30, 2011, 02:28:50 am »
hmm, see your point, and i am not a fan of "one upping", if this card was put into the game (considering im Ofer, this isn't a concern), a slight rewording of momentum to "defensive effects" instead of "shield effects" would cover it.  and come to think of it, does momentum ignore a creature with gravity pull in game currently?
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Re: Dancing Blade | Dancing Blade https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34250.msg432620#msg432620
« Reply #15 on: November 30, 2011, 02:29:42 am »
hmm, see your point, and i am not a fan of "one upping", if this card was put into the game (considering im Ofer, this isn't a concern), a slight rewording of momentum to "defensive effects" instead of "shield effects" would cover it.  and come to think of it, does momentum ignore a creature with gravity pull in game currently?
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Re: Dancing Blade | Dancing Blade https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34250.msg432623#msg432623
« Reply #16 on: November 30, 2011, 02:32:04 am »
hmm, see your point, and i am not a fan of "one upping", if this card was put into the game (considering im Ofer, this isn't a concern), a slight rewording of momentum to "defensive effects" instead of "shield effects" would cover it.
Yeah, you're right... As it is now, this could block them.

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and come to think of it, does momentum ignore a creature with gravity pull in game currently?
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Re: Dancing Blade | Dancing Blade https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34250.msg432625#msg432625
« Reply #17 on: November 30, 2011, 02:33:37 am »
so we already have one example of momentum ignoring a non-shield defensive effect, i wouldnt have an issue with momentum ignoring this as well.  but a rewording of momentum itself may clear that up better than any change to this card could.
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Re: Dancing Blade | Dancing Blade https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34250.msg432643#msg432643
« Reply #18 on: November 30, 2011, 03:43:59 am »
When did this thing start attacking creatures? I thought it attacked the opponent?
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Re: Dancing Blade | Dancing Blade https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34250.msg432655#msg432655
« Reply #19 on: November 30, 2011, 04:22:39 am »
it was never explicitly stated, either one could work thematically and honestly either would be fine.
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Re: Dancing Blade | Dancing Blade https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34250.msg433718#msg433718
« Reply #20 on: December 02, 2011, 03:54:32 am »
i guess i can see the point of having this card instead completely destroy weapons and/or shields now, the only question is- is that too powerful for a card to perma-lockdown the weapon and/or shield slot of the opponent?
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