Damnation | Damnation

[ddevans96]

I'm pretty sure this was OP even without soulcatcher.

15 quanta for what is essentially a 10 attack creature with immortality and momentum. I fail to see how that is not balanced.

With soul catcher it is overpowered, but it was not before.

[Indrejue]

lets see here the closest you can get to that normally is about 16 quanta from like 3 different sources un upped to make the same thing
 ,  ,  , ,  ,  , or  dragon each cost 10 and make 10 damage
  just a little better at 12 for 10 quanta

then you add quint 4 and momentum another 2

so as you see about 16 quanta to get the same affect from 3 different sources and those can usually be countered by thorn or fire shield this is way op as you can s from the math

[Uppercut]

I'm pretty sure this was OP even without soulcatcher.

15 quanta for what is essentially a 10 attack creature with immortality and momentum. I fail to see how that is not balanced.

With soul catcher it is overpowered, but it was not before.

The efficiency at which quanta is created does not determine cost to attack ratio on a creature. If it did then every death creature just got slightly undercosted. As long as immolation is around every fire creature is undercosted. Your comparison also takes 3 to 4 cards to create and is still worse because it uses a creature slot. Seems like it was OP to begin with even when using your example.

[Indrejue]

i think my example showed just how over powered it is to begin with.  to get anything even comparable the costs are way too high and use like 3 different elements and are easily countered

[ddevans96]

i think my example showed just how over powered it is to begin with.  to get anything even comparable the costs are way too high and use like 3 different elements and are easily countered

I was obviously talking about a creature coming into play with those.

[Indrejue]

which obviously does not exists and would never exist for obvious reasons

[ddevans96]

which obviously does not exists and would never exist for obvious reasons

It's theoretical, just like this card. Does this make sense or do I need to explain it further.

[Indrejue]

as sg said i do not like the idea of super poison each card needs to have a way to counter it other then the basic control of their quanta pool. if no possible counters then it is over powered

[OldTrees]

as sg said i do not like the idea of super poison each card needs to have a way to counter it other then the basic control of their quanta pool. if no possible counters then it is over powered

The counter to superpoison is the same as the counter to quinted chargers.

Just because something cannot be removed does not mean that it cannot be countered.

[991woot119]

lets see here the closest you can get to that normally is about 16 quanta from like 3 different sources un upped to make the same thing
 ,  ,  , ,  ,  , or  dragon each cost 10 and make 10 damage
  just a little better at 12 for 10 quanta

then you add quint 4 and momentum another 2

so as you see about 16 quanta to get the same affect from 3 different sources and those can usually be countered by thorn or fire shield this is way op as you can s from the math

it isnt really 15 to play thats its minimum cost if someone has 15 fractal costs 15 if they have 11 it costs 11 ifthey have 50 it costs 50

[Indrejue]

the point is that it takes more min quanta to get the same effect with cards more cards and more types of quanta to do 10 damage that never goes away. which makes it way op

[UncleBero]

In my opinion card that makes so big poison counter and it cannot be removed is too troublesome and I think, that this is a little overpowered.... maybe little changes?